smokey0384 : <arrives> Male
liliths7roses : Has anyone read Aradia: Gospel of the Witchs By Charles G. Leland. Published in 1899 (figured it was worth a try since no one in any of the witch or pagan chats have)
xiphoid_thanatos : coltzans: Those paragraphs happen to be pertinent. If you don't like them,don't read them.
fundysrstupid : bateria = animal forms that live in baterries?
Synthetic_Humanity : kinda like bacteria...only retarded
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : its my flat rubber keyboard i gotta hit the keys just right or they dont register
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : fundy: bacteria ( iwonder's having problems with the kb)
begs_to_be_sodomized : A hiccup, Andrew?
fundysrstupid : vulpie :))
griffengrey : May God have mercy on your ignorant ways
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Until you do, and a "theory" for how it DID arise, science will accept that it formed naturally... and study how it can do that.
smokey0384 : how is athiest who beleive god doesn't exist any different to how people interpretate god to be everything
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 05:54:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_chainsawpsycho : Sticky keyboard?
pure_idea : lisa, it is a beautiful thing...to explore the grandeur of it all...but if the assumption is...evolution argues against design, but then to says nothing can argue against evolution doesnt make sense
elvis_high_on_drugs : may god fuck you in the ear griff
coltzans_shrine : I will eat you you stupid griff, right after I eat jesus
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : griffen: why don't you go for the god challenge?
fundysrstupid : okie dio...but you know better than to take me seriously
gothic_boytoy : There is no god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
begs_to_be_sodomized : Evolution makes no argument against design.
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : no not sticky keys
liliths7roses : <leaves the room>
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : eww
coltzans_shrine : god is an athiest damn it
Lisa_the_Insomniac : pure_idea, I'm sorry you dislike science so much, because naturalism is a part of it. But that's the only honest position it can take. Not your "goddidit" argument.
xiphoid_thanatos : pure: You are an 'IDer'?
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : just lame ones
begs_to_be_sodomized : Evolution is the process followed with allele's.
smokey0384 : sol, how is there being no god, different to how SOME people interpretate god being everything
smokey0384 : god is just a word
the_chainsawpsycho : hehehehehehehe
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Until there's evidence "goddidit", or that natural processes COULDN'T do it, that's what science goes with.
begs_to_be_sodomized : People that choose to argue abiogenesis and biogenesis argue design.
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 05:55:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : i can poor a drink on this keyboard or go stick it in the dishwasher andit will always work
elvis_high_on_drugs : religion is a sham created for ignorant dumb people to follow
fundysrstupid : evolution makes no argument period...it's an absurd premise to think that a law of nature makes arguments...surely you don't think gravity makes an argument do you?
griffengrey : god challenge whats that?
coltzans_shrine : it was aliens damn it, they are god, god is aliens, it makes a lot of sense.
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : but its just hard as a motherfucker to type on
rex_deus_1118 : xiphoid u arnt from mackay r u?
coltzans_shrine : ALIENS
gothic_boytoy : God is a word to make people feel loved when they arin't
ebi_safari103 : <arrives>
xiphoid_thanatos : rex: Nope.
Lisa_the_Insomniac : pure_idea, NOBODY is saying that you can't argue against evolution. Just that niether you nor ANY other creationist has come up with a REASONABLE argument against evolutin, supported by evidence.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : griffen: it'll be this Tuesday at 11:00 PM Eastern Time
pure_idea : lisa, of course a sound position seems to be ...lets put it to the test. Not to infer God for every single thing, nor to exclude him by saying "no matter what we find, we WILL define this naturalistically"
elvis_high_on_drugs : the religious masses are brainwashed and manipulated to follow a invisible man and fairytalebook
begs_to_be_sodomized : Evolution is fine and dandy making progress. More so since scaremongering theists are now allowed minimal input unless they specifically work in the field.
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Until you do, we'll go by what the evidence says. And the evidence says evolution is a fact.
rex_deus_1118 : ok
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 05:56:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
coltzans_shrine : ITS NOT A FAIRY TALE DAMN IT, ITS A FABLE
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : religion is a bunch of stories passed by word of mouth for centuries
begs_to_be_sodomized : worked with 3 theist biologists.
raaj_dilwala : <leaves the room>
begs_to_be_sodomized : And they remind me of Lisa hehe.
Lisa_the_Insomniac : And yes, as Jo has again pointed out, creationists continually try to argue abiogenesis is evolution. It's not.
craig_jl_2003 : A question to all Christians. Why do you all not convert to Islam? After all wasnt Mohammed also a prophet of the God of Abraham, and his word is more recent so then supercedes the word of the prophet Abraham
begs_to_be_sodomized : If anything, they were more critical then any atheist I know.
fundysrstupid : lets face it folks...anyone believing in creationism at this stage of the game was out to lunch when god was passing out high IQ
smokey0384 : evolution has many flaws, and is still called a "theory", u don't have evolution as a law, but personally i beleive its most possible and will eventually be a law
griffengrey : and the atheist is so vain as to believe in self redemtion, thinking he is God, or even berret
smokey0384 : evolution is not a fact
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : the 'god challenge' -- i buy two tickets for the lottery. I want all the christians to prove their god my asking their god to make them the grand-prize winners. I will then announce the results at 11:05
pure_idea : lisa, ok...good to hear that arguments can be presented (of course one is immediately labled many times "fundy" or "pseudo-scientist", instead of being able to deal directly with the arguments)
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 05:57:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : lol
fundysrstupid : smokey evolution has no flaws...and neither does gravity
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : smokey: evolution IS fact
coltzans_shrine : YOU ARE BRAINWASHED, YOU AREN'T ARGUEING YOU ARE SPAMMING THE FUCKING BOARDS
Cerebral_Torture : is away (Away)
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Poor pure_idea... He just doens't get it. And doesn't want to.
begs_to_be_sodomized : Fiona had been ousted from her church because she refused, at the request of her congregation, to stop studying the evolutionary process of xylum.
begs_to_be_sodomized : Yeah like a tree is going to worry god.
begs_to_be_sodomized : Sheesh.
Lisa_the_Insomniac : He wants to stick to his idea that science is naturalistic, NO MATTER WHAT...
nutjobme : First off fundy, if you compare witch craft to christianity, you're speaking of the revived witch craft of the 13th and 14th century. You couldn't possible be speaking of old religion witch craftry, as people of those times felt things such as water, fire, air, earth, trees, the sun, and the moon aspects of deity. So speaking of my ignorance, I incline you to read.
xiphoid_thanatos : notes that pure has dismissed all other gods
smokey0384 : ok, are you goin to just say evolutuon is a fact without justifying it
coltzans_shrine : STOP WITH THE HUGE PARAGRAPHS
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : IF one of the two tickets win, i'll be convinced that a god exists and will become a defender of the christian faith
griffengrey : listen buddy, god dont need to heed such selfish prayers
pure_idea : lisa, see...more condescending comments, what is that all about...we were on a good track there for a minute
fundysrstupid : vulpie apparently the druids were a thorn in christianity's side for a bit
begs_to_be_sodomized : They saw the term "evolution" and then went nutters.
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 05:58:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : im atheist and i dont think im god i know that im as meaningless as everyone else in the world or the dirt outside in the end
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : so far: the 'GOD challenge' -- atheists 1 god 0
coltzans_shrine : THE BOARD MOVES TOO FAST TO EFFECTIVLY READ THE STUPID ASS THING
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Show evidence of God. Show evidence life can't form, and then evolve (two separate things), naturally... that external action from a "designer" deity is NECESSARY, and science will listen. You have utterly failed to do so.
begs_to_be_sodomized : No matter that the fucking things are growing all around us.
nutjobme : Now I understand you didn't bring that topic up, but you replied to me, as if you knew just the same.
the_chainsawpsycho : Christianity is all about the magick of Jesus.
Lisa_the_Insomniac : All the evidence supports naturalistic explanations.
pure_idea : xiphoid, i dont believe we discussed it
happy_bunny_mostly : <arrives> Male 34 from Subject of the queen of England alias Strange guy
coltzans_shrine : ALIENS
coltzans_shrine : THEY DID IT
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : and lol umm doesnt the ice age theory contradict the bible?
begs_to_be_sodomized : Andrew: Chemistry via alchemist tests.
begs_to_be_sodomized : So said my great uncles.
coltzans_shrine : WHY YES IT DOES
Lisa_the_Insomniac : xiph, see, this is how it usually turns out with pure_idea. :) He always degenerates to pretty standard "intelligent design" arguments.
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Dishonest as they are.
happy_bunny_mostly : Morning very very very nice people
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 05:59:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
fundysrstupid : nutjob please...you are going to hurt yourself...when did I compare withcraft to xtinaity?? all I did was correct your statement that christianity predates witchcraft...now here's a dollar go buy a clue
craig_jl_2003 : <leaves the room>
smokey0384 : evolution is not a fact, it has many flaws, evotionary strands etc prove that it has hooj flaws, and thats why in science, evoluton is not a law yet, its still a theory
begs_to_be_sodomized : Stories that christians in scotland use to accuse them of making devil potions.
pure_idea : lisa, we were dealing with some fundamental things today....other days we have talked about specifics...like with the research i mentioned about the difficulties of RNA and membrane formation in a marine environment
begs_to_be_sodomized : Most of it was cleaning solvents.
begs_to_be_sodomized : :))
fundysrstupid : vulpuie :)) too funny
nutjobme : You sir, need to learn how to comprehend my statements.
begs_to_be_sodomized : I know. amazing what lavendar can do :)0
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : smokey: :)) you're ignorant on scientific terminology
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : and lol this too lol you know that religion will always be around.....
xiphoid_thanatos : pure: I asked twice and did not get an answer. And your views are fairly obvious with your staements. pure_idea (10:02:01 PM): lisa, of course a sound position seems to be ...lets put it to the test. Not to infer God for every single thing, nor to exclude him by saying "no matter what we find, we WILL define this naturalistically"
the_chainsawpsycho : We need a good witch hunt, to keep the Christians in line.
smokey0384 : ur a geek if u speculate it to be a fact and everyone else is wrong, clueless fundermentalist
coltzans_shrine : WITCHCRAFT IS AGAINST THE CHURCH, ANYTHING AGAINST THE CHURCH IS EVIL, ALL EVIL IS SATAN, SO FUCK OFF
happy_bunny_mostly : Ok no nice people here so morning fucked up fanatics from both sides:-)
xshuda : it smells nice and disinfects?
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:00:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Lisa_the_Insomniac : smokey, you don't understand some basic scientific definitions... like "law", "theory", and "fact"... Something can be a scientific fact, and we STILL have a theory about it. And a law. Gravity, for example.
pure_idea : xiphoid, i like to progress from one subject to the next, thanks
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : smokey: evolution is a fact -- that organisms will change to adapt to their environment
xiphoid_thanatos : happy bunny :o
smokey0384 : haha synope, yes i beleive i am, thats why i asked you to justify why it is a fact, and u seemed unable to
begs_to_be_sodomized : Church made witchcraft.
coltzans_shrine : ANYTHING OVER 5 LINES IS FUCKING BULLSHIT
xiphoid_thanatos : uh huh
pure_idea : lisa, any thoughts about the marine environment problem?
happy_bunny_mostly : Xiphoid morning:-)
begs_to_be_sodomized : People have been using herbal remedies for eons.
Lisa_the_Insomniac : diogenes, you know his answer to that will be the typical "that's macro not micro!"
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : even after we turn jupiter into a vaction area theres still gonna be those colonies who pass on the old ways
the_chainsawpsycho : PrayerMagick is just as bad as spellcasting.
smokey0384 : My sister has a degree in biology so.., nothing to do with me, but i know a little, but still ignorant on it
coltzans_shrine : ALIENS MADE WITCHCRAFT
begs_to_be_sodomized : What do you think making bread is?
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Err, micro not mcro.
begs_to_be_sodomized : grains, and shit.
happy_bunny_mostly : <leaves the room>
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : smokey: a SCIENTIFIC law describes a behavior -- a scientific THEORY explains. a THEORY is NEVER and WILL NEVER be a LAW
begs_to_be_sodomized : damn stupid fundies.
coltzans_shrine : ALL THE ALIENS DO EVERYTHING
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:01:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nutjobme : Someone brought the topic of witch craft and christianity into comparison. I explained that the creation of witch craft, as to being compared with christianity made sense, because christianity revived, and changed the religion as it is known today. Thus, calling me ignorant simply because I didn't mention the date of birth of the religion is quite useless.
coltzans_shrine : THE ULTIMATE ANSWERB-)
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : YES THEORYS DO BECOME LAWS SORRY TO INFORM YOU
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Oh, I love this quote... for people who say "evolution is JUST a theory, not a law or a fact!" from the National Academy of Science ...
Lisa_the_Insomniac : "Laws are generalizations that describe phenomena, whereas theories explain phenomena. For example, the laws of thermodynamics describe what will happen under certain circumstances; thermodynamics theories explain why these events occur. Laws, like facts and theories, can change with better data. But theories do not develop into laws with the accumulation of evidence. Rather, theories are the goal of science."
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : iwonder: :)) nope
pure_idea : lisa, now last time you did say you havent gotten into origin of life scenarios too much, so it seems a bit premature for you to say that "All the evidence supports naturalistic explanations."
begs_to_be_sodomized : need to sleep. g'night.
coltzans_shrine : STOP WITH HUGE PARAGRAPHS, OR i WILL SMITE YOU
begs_to_be_sodomized : <leaves the room>
coltzans_shrine : SMITE YOU GOOD
Lisa_the_Insomniac : pure_idea, not at all.
smokey0384 : o really?
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:02:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
fundysrstupid : smokey the theory of evolution (the one you claim has many flaws) is the theory by which humans with a functioning brain attempt to explain natural FACTS...hence evolution is a fact...we however, do not understand it to the degree which would satisfy every single possible event....perhaps if you dug your head out of your ass or the bible (same thing for all intent and purposes) the clean air might make you understand
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : thre are equations thought of by isaac newton that were theorys up unil we proved them with computers because they can handle it so fast
Lisa_the_Insomniac : You have not given any evidence AGAINST naturalistic explanations, or FOR "design". Or even one reason why looking for "design" origin is needed.
gothic_boytoy : <leaves the room>
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : dude if you sincerely believe that then youre just stupid
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : iwonder: :)) non-sequitor
xiphoid_thanatos : Lisa: Have you read any of Michael Russell's origin theories?
smokey0384 : so how in scientific terms show evolution is a fact as u seem to have a lot more knowledge than me on it. i just saw a documentary once, haha, and a big book with nice big illustrated pics
coltzans_shrine : THE ALIENS DAMN IT
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : now those theorys are laws
Lisa_the_Insomniac : No, xiph.
coltzans_shrine : FUCK YOU CHRISTIANS WHO DO NOT CONVERT
xiphoid_thanatos : Lisa: Ahh ok.
Cerebral_Torture : <leaves the room>
fundysrstupid : christinaity changed religion as it is today? hmmm do the buddhists, jeews, etc etc etc know this?
Cerebral_Torture : <arrives> Male
coltzans_shrine : THIS IS GOD EXPLAINING EVERYTHING TO YOU
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : iwonder: :)) WRONG
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:03:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Lisa_the_Insomniac : iwonder, theories NEVER "become laws".
coltzans_shrine : LIAR
smokey0384 : haha fundy
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : theories have become laws
Lisa_the_Insomniac : You can come up with a law from studying the theory, but theories don't BECOME laws... especially "as they are more proven".
elvis_high_on_drugs : kamahl if you type alot of words into a paragraph and make it take up lots of space itcan help to increase the facade of intellect in these bastrd christians
Lisa_the_Insomniac : That's not how it works.
coltzans_shrine : THATS WHY CREATIONISM ISN'T A SCIENCE
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : sorry iwonder -- you are wrong
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Name one theory that has "become a law", iwonder.
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : just a sec
coltzans_shrine : GRAVITY, AND ALIENS DAMNIT
pure_idea : lisa, you could leave it open at least...to evidence that would go against life arising naturally. So evidence against naturalistic explanation 1) marine environment 2) arising after hostile conditions so no time to sit and wait for some chemical mixture to give rise to life 3) specified sequence DNA in the first life (3.8bya)...that we know of
smokey0384 : lol
xiphoid_thanatos : wonders why her mic won't work -frowns-
Lisa_the_Insomniac : I bet your example will be a LAW they came up with BASED On the theory. But it wasn't the theory BECOMING a law.
smokey0384 : theories in physcics? :|
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:04:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
babak_eynac_forosh : <leaves the room>
xshuda : does a law then validate a theory?
smokey0384 : yes lisa, ur right
fundysrstupid : creationism isn't a science because science REQUIRES the use of the scintific method which is wholy inapplicable to the dreams/nightmares of goat herders
coltzans_shrine : FUCK YOU YOU CHRISTIAN BASTARDS
Lisa_the_Insomniac : pure_idea, I'm open to evidence against life arising naturally. And no one has any.
the_chainsawpsycho : The bang bus theory is also a law, to me.
xiphoid_thanatos : lol chain
Lisa_the_Insomniac : bang bus theory?
Synthetic_Humanity : It was MAGIC ALIENS LISA!!!!
Cerebral_Torture : coltzans, you're making an ass out of yourself. You do know that, right?
smokey0384 : kamahl, ur just as bad as a christian
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : HERES A FINE EXAMPLE NEWTONS THEORY THA TWO BODIES ACT ON ONE ANOTHER BECAME A LAW
the_chainsawpsycho : "If you get a fucking bus and some cash, you can make porn."
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : xshuda: example. we have the LAW of gravity ( f=g*(m1*m2)/d^2) --- that describes gravity but doesn't explain how gravity works
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/history/perturbations.html
coltzans_shrine : i AM GOD, i CAN DO IT IN STYLE
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:05:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Okay, some basic definitions here...
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Law: A descriptive generalization about how some aspect of the natural world behaves under stated circumstances.
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Hypothesis: A testable statement about the natural world that can be used to build more complex inferences and explanations.
pure_idea : lisa, i do wish you could respond to the fact that it appears that membrane and RNA formation is frustrated in a marine environment...it seems to deserve more than a wave of the hand
xshuda : ok thanks
smokey0384 : kamahl, ur the reason why the principle of christianity is sometimes needed in ppl
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Theory: In science, a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses.
negu_gorriak_ska : <arrives> Female 18 from madrid
coltzans_shrine : WHY
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Fact: In science, an observation that has been repeatedly confirmed.
coltzans_shrine : THERES A PRINCIPLE?
Fastillion : <arrives> Male
smokey0384 : she is a bot
Synthetic_Humanity : So because of that pure_idea we can infer... MAGIC ALIENS!!!!
Fastillion : <leaves the room>
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Something can be an observed fact, and we have a THEORY about it, explaining it. And we can ALSO have a LAW about it (or more than one)
fundysrstupid : Faith: process by which imbeciles who know and understand nothing give meaning to their otherwise pathetic lives
pure_idea : synthetic, are you conceding the point?
coltzans_shrine : ALIENS DAMN IT, THEY ARENT MAGIC
nutjobme : The jews were heckled by christians as heretical thinkers at the same time. In the late 1400s, the Christian follows killed roughly 9 million people for being witchs, 80 percent being female. A vast majority of those killed, were not witchs.
fundysrstupid : Lisa you forgot that one
xiphoid_thanatos : Fact: In science, an observation that has been repeatedly confirmed. Law: A descriptive generalization about how some aspect of the natural world behaves under stated circumstances. Hypothesis: A testable statement about the natural world that can be used to build more complex inferences and explanations. Theory: In science, a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses.
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:06:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : i wonder: :)) that is the LAW of gravity -- it doesn't explain HOW gravity works, it just DESCRIBES it's behavior!! the THEORY of gravity ( at the present time) EXPLAINS HOW gravity works
pure_idea : synthetic, then we could go on to "inferrence to the best explanation"
xiphoid_thanatos : [pasted from NAS]
elvis_high_on_drugs : <leaves the room>
smokey0384 : kamahl, christianity gives people judgements what is wrong and right, gives ethics and morals, a lifestyle, its meant to make them more civalized under control, ppl like u need that as ur unable to on ur own acord
nutjobme : Thus, reviving, and changing the path of the witch craft relgion as it is understood today.
pure_idea : xiphoid, do you mean PNAS?
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : SO WHATS UR POINT I JUST PROVED TO YOU THAT THEORYS BECOME LAWS DONT BE REDUNDANT
smokey0384 : christianity can deter some ppl from suacide, christanity can also give ignorant understaning and mentally weak peace of mind
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : iwonder: what Newton was working on is called ( in scientific jargon) a HYPOTHESIS
coltzans_shrine : NO IT ISN'T, ALL THEIR MORALS ARE WHAT PEOPLE GENERALLY DONT WANT DONE TO THEM. i COULD EASILY BECOME A BUDDHIST AND HAVE THE SAME AFFECT DAMNIT
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:07:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Lisa_the_Insomniac : pure_idea, perhaps your understanding of the marine environment is flawed. Or perhaps science itself doesn't know enough about it to know how it's possible. Or perhaps life didn't form in a marine environment. Or the kind of marine environment YOU mean. I don't know enough about abiogenesis to say. But the thing is, you saying "it can't happen" isn't evidence it can't happen.
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : IT WAS ISAAC NEWTONS THEORY THAT BECAME A LAW
smokey0384 : yes u could kamahl, what is ur point
Synthetic_Humanity : Yes i am...I do not see why someone would not try to go through something using logic and reason instead of jumping to conclusions based on archaic beliefs.
coltzans_shrine : YOUR A FUCKER
xiphoid_thanatos : pure: No, I didn't. National Academy of Science. NAS.http://www.nap.edu/readingroom/books/evolution98/evol1.html
smokey0384 : r u descriminating all christians are being fundementalists
coltzans_shrine : THATS MY FUCKING POINT WANNA BE FUCKER
fundysrstupid : no dio god didit...he does everything you know that...now go back and get a refund on your lobotomyt for christ...apparently they botched the operation
xiphoid_thanatos : That is diverted from their site
Lisa_the_Insomniac : fundysrstupid, actually, I define faith as "belief in something without evidence", and blind faith as "belief in something, DESPITE all the evidence against it" (like creationism)
iaboyeah : <arrives> Male 59
smokey0384 : ur obviously an uncivalized child who resorts to child names, christianity would have done u a world of good
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : :))
the_chainsawpsycho : National Academy of Satanism?
fundysrstupid : Lisa rofl
Lisa_the_Insomniac : chain. :)
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:08:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
iaboyeah : <leaves the room>
coltzans_shrine : THE POINT IS THAT ALIENS PUT THE FLAW OF MORALS TO MAKE US WEAKER FOR WHEN THEY INVADE DAMNIT
pure_idea : lisa, it sounds like you can see that it would pose problems for the naturalistic scenario...which many have observed (for other reasons) and now have migrated to panspermia (outer space)
the_chainsawpsycho : I like that idea, actually.
fundysrstupid : Lisa isn't all faith by definition BLIND?
smokey0384 : control is needed for ppl like u kamahl, people like you are goin to make us extinct faster than we would have
xiphoid_thanatos : lol cahin, according to some of the fundies we get in here, they would probably agree with you
nutjobme : Being a buddhist is not the same as christianity at all. It's knowing yourself. Finding meaning within your self. Christianity wants you to find meaning in someone else.
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : HERES ANOTHER EXAMPLE IN TEXT
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : INTEL CO-FOUNDER GORDON MOORE has predicted that chips will continue their exponential increase in power for the next ten years. Moore is famous for his 1965 theory that the number of transistors on a chip will double every eighteen months. The theory became known as Moore's Law after being proven right over many years. It points to a future where "Even if we get to the point where we can't squeeze any more [transistors] in there, we'll be putting billions of transistors on a chip," according to a report from The Associated Press. If his law holds true, we can expect processors to have tens of billions of transistors after ten years. By then, an Intel microprocessor may have a mind to match a bumble bee. Although there may well be problems ahead, Moore is confident that the indust
pelloquin13 : <arrives>
coltzans_shrine : CHRISTIANS KILL MORE PEOPLE THAN I COULD WITHOUT ME ALIENS
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : ELECTRONICS
fundysrstupid : nutjob that is incorrect
fundysrstupid : again
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : A THEORYY THA BECAME A LAW
smokey0384 : kamahl, again ur descrimining, everyone is an idiviudal
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : iwonder: :))
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:09:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Lisa_the_Insomniac : pure_idea, maybe life came from space. I don't know. Far as I am aware, no one has found evidence to support that. Or to support that it COULDN'T form here. Except the creationists and their phony probability equations, of couse. :)
estimate_2006 : <arrives> Male from NEW YORK (NY) alias Rew
coltzans_shrine : IF MORALS ARE TO CONTROL ME, WHY IS IT I CAN BUY A GUN?
Lisa_the_Insomniac : course
Fastillion : <arrives> Male
smokey0384 : dude, My friend is a christian, only coz his family is, he doesn't care or do anything different than if he was an athiest
xiphoid_thanatos : panspermia is literally seed everyehere, and the theory (originally posited by Svante Arrhenius) is almost completely disregarded today in science
estimate_2006 : <leaves the room>
coltzans_shrine : I WILL EAT HIS FAMILY
xiphoid_thanatos : *seeds
Lisa_the_Insomniac : fundysrstupid, if your definition is close to the one I just posted, then no, not all faith is blind.
pelloquin13 : <leaves the room>
smokey0384 : kamahl, u have low self-esteem
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : WELL I HAVE TWO EXAMPLES THAT THORIES CAN BECOM LAWS FIND A QOTE SOMEWHERE THAT THEORIES DONT BECOME LAWS ANDILL SHUTUP
the_chainsawpsycho : Jesus tells me I need to go play video games. Later.
coltzans_shrine : WELL NO SHIT DUMBASS
the_chainsawpsycho : <leaves the room>
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : iwonder: LEARN SOMETHING!! Moore didn't have a Scientific theory , he had a HYPOTHESIS
xshuda : the evidence that life came from outer space would be found on meteors that have organic matter
fundysrstupid : Lisa actually...unl;ike creationism...there is SOME evidence that life may have come to earth from outer space...or at least the requisite building blocks for it
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:10:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
smokey0384 : u exploit athiests and use it for ur reason to insult people, ur just as bad as people who exploit christianity
hhllooooo : <arrives> Male 25 from FRANCE alias ERIC
smokey0384 : which is the majority of them
nutjobme : You seem to think you know quite a bit, and yet when I explain what I mean, you simply stand at your first quote. Why?
Synthetic_Humanity : Meteors from outer space!!!
coltzans_shrine : I EXPLOIT EVERY RELIGION, I DONT DISCRIMINATE
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : moore had a GUESS --
fundysrstupid : Lisa I love arguing semantics with you...it turns me on :))
Synthetic_Humanity : With little aliens!
coltzans_shrine : ALIENS DAMNIT
Lisa_the_Insomniac : If I believed there was intelligent life 87,093 light years away, that's a sort of "faith". If I insisted it was there, even when all stars in that range were VISITED and no civilizations found, that would be blind faith. That's a facetious example, but you get it?
coltzans_shrine : WORSHIP ALIENS
fundysrstupid : nutjob because you fail to address the point I make
Lisa_the_Insomniac : fundysrstupid, yes. The "building blocks" may have.
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:11:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : besides, moore's law isn't a scientific endeavor anyways
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : DUDE IT SAYS UP THERE Moore is famous for his 1965 theory that the number of transistors on a chip will double every eighteen months. The theory became known as Moore's Law after being proven right over many years. IT DOESNT SAY ANYTHING AOUT A HYPOTHESIS
smokey0384 : u descriminated christians, and u exploit being non religious instead, u exloit being an alien worshipper lol
pure_idea : lisa, at least you are willing to concede that there are some potential problems with current origin of life ideas...there are other problems too, and to exclude design as a possibility wouldnt be reasonable.
griffengrey : Stop trying to convince yourselfs that man is god, sience is god, and god knows what els. Religeon is a qusetion of faith, not faith in self. Saying we a brainwashed, well i wont lower myself to reply to such a stupid, moronic statement
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : iwonder: :))
hhllooooo : <leaves the room>
skilet_head_jr2002 : <arrives> Male 18 from THE GUILD OF CHAOS alias ODIN ALL FATHER
smokey0384 : :-? hmmm does anyone pray to just say thanx for life, we appreciate it. naw. always ask for something
Lisa_the_Insomniac : pure_idea, EXCLUDE design? It was never included. For good reason.
coltzans_shrine : I AM ALL THOSE THINGS FOR I AM GOD, WORSHIP ME AND ME ALIENS COHORTS IN AN EFFORT TO DISTROY THE WORLD
xshuda : iwonder: technology is moving along quite a bit quicker nowadays
skilet_head_jr2002 : LOOK IN MY PRO IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE FACE OF GOD
xiphoid_thanatos : Synthetic: In simple terms yes. It is basically that the rocks responsile for the harrassment of earth way back when originated from a planet that already contained life, then it could have seeded earth. I don't like the theory but it may ewll turn out to be true.
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:12:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nutjobme : You don't make a point. You state a fact, and call me ignorant, obviously referring to my point, so when I explain MY point, without even touching yours, it means you've attacked my point with nothing more than a hollow attempt to make me appear to not know my subject when in fact I do.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : iwonder: i have a theory that there will be another presidential election in 2004 and will have one every 4 years after that.
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : WELL IM GLAD YOU LAUGH BUT THEORIES DO BECOME LAWS I DONT KNOW WHERE YOU GET YOUR INFO IT SOUNDS LIKE UR UST RUNNING YOUR MOUTH
smokey0384 : lol, ive acnowleged ur existance kamahl, ur cool. haha
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : my 'theory' is NOT A SCIENTIFIC THEORY
coltzans_shrine : NOT WHEN I RULE THE WORLD NO
nutjobme : Though you were right, it had nothing to do with ignorance on my part.
pure_idea : lisa, hey you believe in God...if God exists, miracles are possible...now why would you exclude God from intervening in his creation
Lisa_the_Insomniac : WHEN you give valid reasons why it can't have formed naturally (here or in space), and evidence of a deity, and evidence this deity "tinkered with" and formed life, then "design theory" will be accepted in science. That's how it works.
skilet_head_jr2002 : jesus loves you evey one else thinks ur a cunt
fundysrstupid : griffen I agree wholeheartedly with you...you and your fellow xtians aren';t brainwashed...you are braintainted if anything...we could only hope that your brain could be washed clean of all that moronic xtian nonsense
smokey0384 : now, get over urself, damn, ur lookin for more attention than me, u need to feel more wanted and needed than most ppl
coltzans_shrine : I ATE JESUS DAMNIT, HE LOVES MY ASS
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : WELL IT WAS A LAW TO BEGIN WITH SO THAT WAS A STUPID EXAMPLE
chief_thunder_underlord : <arrives> Male 24 from Gold Coast
Synthetic_Humanity : Design:POOF MAGIC!
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : no iwonder -- just because some dolt journalist misused the term doesn't mean it is correct
smokey0384 : jesus was a cool dude
Synthetic_Humanity : Damn you mr.smiles!
griffengrey : fundy, i pity you
coltzans_shrine : ALIENS
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:13:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
skilet_head_jr2002 : I KNOW I SAW IT ON A PRO THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY
Lisa_the_Insomniac : The God I believe in lets this universe go according to natural laws. Including natural life formation, and evolution. Especially since that's the way it seems to have happened.
coltzans_shrine : i HATE LARGE ASS FONT
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : WEL WHERE HAS IT EVER BEEN SAID THAT THEORIES DONT BECOME LAWS
Lisa_the_Insomniac : God doesn't use miracles when She doesn't need to.
xiphoid_thanatos : doesn't see 'kumahl'
coltzans_shrine : SO, YOUR A HYPOCRIT CHRISTIAN EH?
fundysrstupid : nutjob if you actually knew the subject you claim to know then you would not have made a clearly erronous statement...like you did
skilet_head_jr2002 : nah i aint any christian
somersetcase1 : <arrives> Male 36 from Somerset
smokey0384 : lisa called god a SHE!
xiphoid_thanatos : loves Lisa's use of 'she' :D
smokey0384 : get her
coltzans_shrine : YOU MISSPELLED KAMAHL DUMBASS
Lisa_the_Insomniac : sneaks away to go pee. All that iced tea is having an effect.
smokey0384 : *points at lisa*
Synthetic_Humanity : Are you arguing design just for the sake of arguing design?
nutjobme : Nothing I said was erroneous.
pure_idea : lisa, i think science and God completely overlap...i do not compartmentalize the two...i think God created the natural world to be explored and learned about. Some things are naturally caused, others are agent caused...sometimes the agent is a human person, and sometimes it can be inferred that a supernatural person caused something
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : IF YOU EVER READ IN THE BAC OF YOUR GEOMETRY TEXTBOOK YOU'LL SEE MATHEMATICAL THEORIES THAT BECOME LAWS
fundysrstupid : griffen why? because I have a clean, unpoluted brain that allows me to see that xtianity is bullshit?
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : iwonder: a SCIENTIFIC theory explains behavior a SCIENTIFIC law describes behavior!!! you are arguing something DIFFERENT! get over it
griffengrey : God id neiter he or she
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:14:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
skilet_head_jr2002 : LOOK IN MY PRO TO SEE THE FACE OF GOD
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : MATH IS A FORM OF SCIENCE
coltzans_shrine : GOD IS A SHE, OR WAS WHEN I ATE HER
ebi_safari103 : <leaves the room>
chief_thunder_underlord : <leaves the room>
xiphoid_thanatos : coltzans: Well if I can't see them how the hell do I know how to spell their name fuckwit?
coltzans_shrine : DONT KNOW
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : NOW we're talking MATH JARGON! NOT SCIENCE JARGON ( and NO, math is NOT science)
coltzans_shrine : ASK GOD
agn0stic_and_atheist : <arrives> Male 36 from uk
fundysrstupid : nutjob that very statement is erronous since you have made multiple eronous statements since I have had the misfortune of enganging you in an otherwise meaningless chat
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : WITHOUT MATH THERE WOULDNTBE SCIENCE YOU ASS
griffengrey : unpoluted, listen to yourself, wake up. I know of insane people with less poluted minds
pure_idea : dio, do numbers exist?
nutjobme : If you ask anyone what witch craft is they'd say spells and cantations to the devil. Much like the word Gay has become a word for ass play and carpet licking, witch craft has gone way to anti-christian spells and cantations.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : iwonder: fallacy of composition
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:15:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
fundysrstupid : poor griffen
xiphoid_thanatos : Ask an imaginary fairy with fangs. Great answer.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : pure: no, they don't
skilet_head_jr2002 : <leaves the room>
nutjobme : Thusly, nothing I've said is wrong.
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : DUDE WHATEVER YOURE THE GENIOUS
coltzans_shrine : ALIENS
nyettiprincess : <arrives> from Aus
coltzans_shrine : HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE SAY
pure_idea : dio, so the number one does not exist, i dont see how that could be
nutjobme : Just because your perception of witch craft doesn't mingle with mine doesn't mean I'm wrong.
fundysrstupid : nutjob I se we can add homophobe your growing list of attributes
coltzans_shrine : THAT ALIENS AND FAIRIES AND OTHER MYTHICAL CREATURES DONT EXIST
wild_child0012001 : <arrives> Male 28 from ask i might tell
nutjobme : No... you can't...
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : pure: send me a one and then i'll take my statement back
Lisa_the_Insomniac : returns, feeling much better.
coltzans_shrine : WHEN YOU SAY GOD EXISTS AND YOU HAVENT MET HIM?
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:16:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
smokey0384 : We are all wrong! so just accept ppl for whatever they wanna beleive
Synthetic_Humanity : numbers are ideas used to measure things...a way to order the universe.
Synthetic_Humanity : I have 1 apple
smokey0384 : u dunno shit, same as me
coltzans_shrine : i ATE YOUR APPLE
smokey0384 : u can't even tell me what the fuck is goin on
fundysrstupid : nutjob you make circular arguments in a vain attempt to recover from your earlier faux paus...it's not working
rex_deus_1118 : <leaves the room>
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : smokey: take the 'god challenge' this Tuesday
Synthetic_Humanity : dio: 1
pure_idea : dio, hang on a sec...im going to find THE number one
Lisa_the_Insomniac : iwonder, can you read something very carefully? I'm going to post this once more for you...
coltzans_shrine : GOD CHALLENGE?
Lisa_the_Insomniac : "Laws are generalizations that describe phenomena, whereas theories explain phenomena. For example, the laws of thermodynamics describe what will happen under certain circumstances; thermodynamics theories explain why these events occur. Laws, like facts and theories, can change with better data. But theories do not develop into laws with the accumulation of evidence. Rather, theories are the goal of science."
smokey0384 : simple question, what the fuck is goin on!? ultimately ur unable to answer, so shaddup u lil bitch
Fastillion : [ No matter how hard believers try, Hebrew mythology will never be THE mythology, or the world's mythology. It is a narrow ethnic view of life. No one puny ethnic culture has the right to say they are the master/chosen race
wild_child0012001 : <leaves the room>
agn0stic_and_atheist : erm...
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : pure: i don't want a number -- i want a one
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : Scientific Law: This is a statement of fact meant to explain, in concise terms, an action or set of actions. It is generally accepted to be true and univseral, and can sometimes be expressed in terms of a single mathematical equation. Scientific laws are similar to mathematical postulates. They don’t really need any complex external proofs; they are accepted at face value based upon the fact that they have always been observed to be true.
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:17:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
fundysrstupid : by the way nutjob...only a homophobe would make thos comments about gays...perhaps you should re-read your bible
shadowzone7 : an interesting point...when the god of the bible destroyed the earth by flood he did not spare the sea life either because he said he would destroy EVERY LIVING SUBSTANCE THAT HE CREATED ON THE EARTH which would have included all sealife..as a matter of fact that would include anything that had life at all
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : andhere you go smart ass
Synthetic_Humanity : gives Dio one
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : Some scientific laws, or laws of nature, include the law of gravity, the law of thermodynamics, and Hook’s law of elasticity.
sepsilvia : <arrives>
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : :))
nutjobme : I'm starting to feel you just can't even be close to have said something that had no bearing actual on my statement or my intelligence.
nutjobme : But thanks for trying.
nyettiprincess : if you can write the number1 then it exists
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : INCLUDE THE LAW OF GRAVITY
korea36kk : <arrives> Male 40 from kr
coltzans_shrine : WHY WOULD A FISH DIE IN A FLOOD?
smokey0384 : synope, the only word i can use to emphahse and describe "the god challenge" Is that it is GAY
pure_idea : dio, segway into an argument:
somersetcase1 : As true as that is it's irrelevent. Math is a langueage that describes reality. An apple is an apple is an apple. Whether you call it 1 apple or "mfds" apple, it's still an apple. If I place another apple next to it, it will be 2 apples, whether I call it 2 apples or "kjfsa" apples. You understand? Numbers label that reality. Math describes phenomenon.
agn0stic_and_atheist : and sod's law
al_playground : <arrives> Female
fundysrstupid : <---gives dio a fiver and tells him to keep the change
pure_idea : dio, a. The number one is a concept or idea. b. Ideas can only exist in minds. c. The number one is eternal d. The number one is immutable. e. The number one must exist independently of human minds. f. There must exist an eternal and immutable mind.
smokey0384 : lol athiest
griffengrey : I pity you all, may god help the blinded onto the path, and the devil onto the curve
pure_idea : dio, courtesy ron nash
nutjobme : ...? I have a bible?
shadowzone7 : kamahl because thats what God said
coltzans_shrine : i HAVE 5
xiphoid_thanatos : waves to somerset
smokey0384 : when i drop buttered toast, sods law comes into play and it lands downwards :(
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:18:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nyettiprincess : gay doesnt mean your sex drive
shadowzone7 : every living substance
coltzans_shrine : I DONT REMEMBER SAYING SUCH A THING
nutjobme : Your assumptions are only making an ass out of you, this time.
fundysrstupid : brb---time to go render homage to mistress nicotine...carry on everyone
Fastillion : [ griffengrey believes in fairy tale devils :)) what a little baby mind
korea36kk : <leaves the room>
Lisa_the_Insomniac : iwonder, there's a LAW of gravity. There's also a THEORY of gravity. The one did not BECOME the other.
fundysrstupid : <leaves the room>
nyettiprincess : media invention foy your use
agn0stic_and_atheist : lol
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : uhh..................lmao yes it did
Fastillion : [ waaaa! waaaa! the devil is bad and wants to take me
shadowzone7 : and every [03605] kol living substance [03351] y@quwm that I have made [06213] `asah
Lisa_the_Insomniac : iwonder, did you read that quote I gave?
al_playground : anyone who's into postmodernism?
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : newton's theory of gravity later became newtons law
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : pure: :)) c is unproven d is incoherent e is incoherent f is incoherent
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:19:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Lisa_the_Insomniac : I'm suspecting you didn't. Or you're just being stubborn or argumentative.
griffengrey : well that fairy tale devil, has such a grip on your twisted mind, that you are, i fear, unredeamable
nyettiprincess : postmodern old hat now
agn0stic_and_atheist : 'postmodernism' - isn't that self-contradictory?
somersetcase1 : So, while the number 1 is a man made label, what it describes, or labels is not man made. What it labels exists endependent of mans construction.
nutjobme : Time has always existed, Gravity has always existed. We just hadn't given it a name yet.
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Oh brother. I give up. iwonder is a nitwit.
griffengrey : sorry
coltzans_shrine : YOU KNOW YOU CANT HAVE SEX IN HEAVEN?
al_playground : its not self contradictory
nyettiprincess : newtons law old hat now
xiphoid_thanatos : kicks her mic
coltzans_shrine : I DIDN'T FEEL I SHOULD ADD THAT IN THE BIBLE
shadowzone7 : Lexicon Results for kol...1) all, the whole a) all, the whole of b) any, each, every, anything c) totality, everything
elvis_high_on_drugs : <arrives> Male 31 from HAWAII
Cerebral_Torture : is away (Away)
pure_idea : dio, lets talk about C....you are saying the number one is not eternal....when did it come into existence?
nyettiprincess : bye room
coltzans_shrine : BECAUSE IT WOULD TECHNICALLY BE LUST
nutjobme : Things didn't float off the planet before we thought of gravity. Sir Isaac Netwon didn't bring Gravity to the universe.
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:20:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
coltzans_shrine : AND LUST IS "EVIL"
heart_not4rent_only4humans : <arrives> Female from Right in front of you alias Heart
coltzans_shrine : SO NO SEX IN HEAVEN YOU HORNY BASTARDS :d
smokey0384 : nutjob, thats why its called discovery and not invented
griffengrey : remember lust is evil, not love
smokey0384 : =D> well done
pure_idea : somerset, well said
smokey0384 : congraulations
xiphoid_thanatos : When humans called it 'the number one' and defined it.
smokey0384 : lol
agn0stic_and_atheist : al_playground - as I understand it postmodern critiques attack the traditional modernistic 'isms', thus for there to be a 'postmodernism' seems to be a misnomer, perhaps 'postmodern' or 'postmodernity' are better.
smokey0384 : humans are fucked up creatures
Lisa_the_Insomniac : nutjobme, just like Darwin didn't "create" evolution. He just noticed what lots of other people did... and came up with a theory for it. (descent with modification, by natural selection)
nutjobme : But the LAW was there before the thoery. We just didn't know about it.
coltzans_shrine : YEAH HAVE SEX WITH ONE WOMAN FOR ETERNITY, SEE HOW THAT FEELS
griffengrey : or wanton
xiphoid_thanatos : somer: Are you sick? :(
shadowzone7 : Lexicon Results for y@quwm (Strong's 03351)1) living substance, that which stands or exists, existence, substance
nutjobme : Things CAN exist before our comprehension of them.
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Evolution has been happening for billions of years before Darwin came along.
al_playground : laws of numbers are unchangable but they dont have a basis on the corporeal world
xiphoid_thanatos : Ohhh oki:)
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:21:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
griffengrey : duuh idiot
Synthetic_Humanity : 1+2=3
Synthetic_Humanity : YAY!!!
smokey0384 : no shit lisa, why are you pointing out the blatant
al_playground : numbers are universal ideas
smokey0384 : :p
Synthetic_Humanity : I can do it!
xiphoid_thanatos : nods to somerset
goodykhaled : <arrives>
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : and i didnt say all lw become theories i just said they can
coltzans_shrine : 1 ONE?
pure_idea : lisa, in the sense of "change over time" yes
Lisa_the_Insomniac : smokey, because many of the fundies we get in here don't even grast the blatant!
goodykhaled : <leaves the room>
smokey0384 : :-? hmmm, what would it be like being born in a trillian years if we ain't extint by then, any ideas?
griffengrey : goodluck on judgement day, poor souls
negu_gorriak_ska : <leaves the room>
al_playground : its not just a label
somersetcase1 : right
coltzans_shrine : WHAT WOULD YOU CALL A #1 ALONE?
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : and you can have one on
Lisa_the_Insomniac : pure_idea, that's what evolution is.
somersetcase1 : yes
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : oneone
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:22:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Synthetic_Humanity : lol
al_playground : numbers are universal ideas
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Not sure what your strawman version of evolution is, though.
pure_idea : ideas exist, ideas are non-physical, therefore naturalism is false...thanks c.s. lewis
agn0stic_and_atheist : [rolls eyes]
Synthetic_Humanity : that you for that observation al_playground
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : pure: :))
smokey0384 : does anyone speculate that we will go further out of the universe, and reach billions of other universes
xiphoid_thanatos : Hey agnostic:)
Fastillion : [ griffengrey, I am not an ancient Jew. The fantasies of the ancient Jews have no more power over me than the fantasies of the ancient Chinese have over you.
agn0stic_and_atheist : hi xiph :-)
pure_idea : lisa, not sure why you assume there is a strawman there
Lisa_the_Insomniac : smokey, as far as we know, there is just one universe.
smokey0384 : universe is expanding, :-? what is outside the universe
Lisa_the_Insomniac : If there are more, we have no way (at present) to detect them.
nutjobme : Yes you did. You said the LAW of Gravity BECAME a theory, when we discovered it.
al_playground : yes i agree with diogenes
smokey0384 : yes lisa, and we know shit
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:23:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
smokey0384 : we like to pretend we do know
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Perhaps you meant visit other galaxies?
agn0stic_and_atheist : smokey0384 - there's is no outside, according to the theory.
coltzans_shrine : I MADE GRAVITY BY SHITTING ON THE DAMN PLANET, SHUT UP ABOUT IT
coltzans_shrine : I SHITTED
coltzans_shrine : I SHIT, GRAVITY
smokey0384 : yes athiest, and that is a good thoery, otherwise it would be dumbfuckerish to say anything different
griffengrey : jews dont believe in the judgement day moron
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : yes they are
fundysrstupid : <arrives>
elvis_high_on_drugs : <leaves the room>
elvis_high_on_drugs : <arrives> Male 31 from HAWAII
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:24:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Fastillion : [ moron? I don't know or care what they believe. It is not science. It is fairy tale campfire stories for idiots like you
coltzans_shrine : NO ONE CARES THAT GOD MADE GRAVITY BY SHIT-TING?
Lisa_the_Insomniac : We'll only travel to other galaxies if we learn some sort of FTL (faster than light) travel. Distance between stars is incredibly tiny compared to distance between galaxies.
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : you have to prove a theory and all sides about it numerous times
agn0stic_and_atheist : if you stop believing in gravity maybe you will float off into space, try it.....lol
fundysrstupid : lol
griffengrey : well dont make ignorant concluseions idiot
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : . A theory is an explanation of a set of related observations or events based upon proven hypotheses and verified multiple times by detached groups of researchers
griffengrey : concluesions
coltzans_shrine : I CANT, I AINT ON EARTH, NO MORE PEOPLE TO EAT
smokey0384 : why couldn't i have beeen born in a few billion billion years where im evolved, capable of travelling in space, and perform telephacy, less ignorant of my surroundingings and technology to travel at speed of light
coltzans_shrine : I ATE GOD: POOF: I GOD
Fastillion : [ griffengrey, stay away from the big words; you can't spell them
heart_not4rent_only4humans : they all got there imformation from the bible,,,just turned it around,worded it to make themselves the important one...Its all BIBLE
agn0stic_and_atheist : 'conclusions'
fundysrstupid : conclusesions?#
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:25:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
xiphoid_thanatos : [pasted from NAS]Fact: In science, an observation that has been repeatedly confirmed. Law: A descriptive generalization about how some aspect of the natural world behaves under stated circumstances. Hypothesis: A testable statement about the natural world that can be used to build more complex inferences and explanations. Theory: In science, a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses.
sinning_vampire : <arrives> Female from rocking back and forth between alias Vampyre Devotion
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : newtons law was based on several hypothesis
smokey0384 : We know shit, and still know shit by the time we die
smokey0384 : mwoahaha
Lisa_the_Insomniac : agn0stic_and_atheist, sometimes you have to give it a push... tell them to jump off a cliff after they stop believing. :)
griffengrey : shame, stay away from the bid dicisions, you cant make them
sk1000s : <arrives> Male 40 from kr
coltzans_shrine : WHY?
griffengrey : big
smokey0384 : ur all meaningless as me in this universe and this gawd foresaken earth will burn anyways
Synthetic_Humanity : didn't we learn this all like...on the first day of science in middle school?
al_playground : yes there are theories that are false but how can you doubt the theory of gravity? its just like with rene descartes when he doubted his existence.
coltzans_shrine : LIVE LIFE WHILE YOU CAN, YOU CAN'T HAVE SEX IN HEAVEN
fundysrstupid : griffen did your lobotomy for jesus hurt?
Synthetic_Humanity : This is kindergarden crap
Lisa_the_Insomniac : . o O ( "Truth does not demand belief. Scientists do not join hands every Sunday, singing, 'Yes, gravity is real! I will have faith! I will be strong! I believe in my heart that what goes up, up, up must come down, down, down. Amen!' If they did, we would think they were pretty insecure about it." - Dan Barker )
xiphoid_thanatos : Synthetic: Apparently some of them didn't.
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:26:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
elvis_high_on_drugs : <leaves the room>
somersetcase1 : Yeah, all we are is dust in the wind, so let's have a drink and cry about it. :-)
smokey0384 : :-? why does lisa want ppl to understand her and get it all of her chest
xiphoid_thanatos : lol I love that one Lisa
smokey0384 : lisa, more important matters, r u lonely my friend!?
shadowzone7 : <leaves the room>
agn0stic_and_atheist : god may exist, but then, lime-green unicorn creators may exist too, I have no reason to believe in either.
Lisa_the_Insomniac : xiph, me too. :)
griffengrey : fundy how far up ur ass is satan by now?
shadowzone7 : <arrives> Male 47 from Florida
coltzans_shrine : ALIENS DAMN IT, ALIENS ARE OUR RULERS, THEY PLANTED THE IDEA OF GRAVITY IN OUR MIND, SO SHUT UP ALREADY, THEORY SOLVED
coltzans_shrine : :d
fundysrstupid : <---joins hands with Lisa and sings...gravity exists gravity exists...then go into a sessions of speaking in tongues
al_playground : yes theories CAN be wrong but not all of them and i think its senseless to doubt the period of gravity. its like doubting your existence
Lisa_the_Insomniac : smokey, your lame attempts to hit on me are more important?
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : theories are developed from more than one hypothesis,, a hypothesis is an if then statement
soloyoda2000 : <arrives> Male 32 from grenoble(france)
xiphoid_thanatos : lmao Andrew
Synthetic_Humanity : hits on Lisa :|
smokey0384 : lol, get over urself lisa
coltzans_shrine : NO WE DONT
elvis_high_on_drugs : <arrives> Male 31 from HAWAII
smokey0384 : I am good intentioned friendly smokey :D
fundysrstupid : xiphoid :))
smokey0384 : at ur services
Lisa_the_Insomniac : laughs.
soloyoda2000 : <leaves the room>
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:27:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
elvis_high_on_drugs : <leaves the room>
coltzans_shrine : MY SHIT CAUSES IT
coltzans_shrine : I SHITTED
heart_not4rent_only4humans : they all got there imformation from the bible,,,just turned it around,worded it to make themselves the important one...Its all BIBLE
coltzans_shrine : MY DENSE MASS MADE GRAVITY DAMN IT
sinning_vampire : i agree wif somersetcase1
smokey0384 : dude, urgh, Im can be non judgemental, passive and carry other peoples lugage and listen even when i got more of my own
fundysrstupid : hi hunter
coltzans_shrine : FINE, DONT LISTEN TO GOD
shock72001 : <arrives> Male
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : it is something like magnetism it works kinda the same way
Lisa_the_Insomniac : flashes back to the "I am your density!" scene in Back to the Future.
coltzans_shrine : I TELL YOU TRUTHS
al_playground : of course formulas cannot answer your question ur right about that its more than math
coltzans_shrine : YOU DONT LISTEN
heart_not4rent_only4humans : <leaves the room>
Fastillion : <leaves the room>
smokey0384 : lisa, is there anyone you want to socialise with right now, if not then ur lonely
griffengrey : Who denies God?
coltzans_shrine : THEN FUCK YOU ALL
fundysrstupid : Lisa :))
xiphoid_thanatos : Lisa :))
coltzans_shrine : YOU WILL SEE WHEN YOU GET TO HEAVEN
agn0stic_and_atheist : I don't believe in any gods.
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:28:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : magnetism and electricity are caused by one another
coltzans_shrine : WATCH ME SHIT, AND POOF, A PLANET HAS GRAVITY
xshuda : its also because the earth spins true?
sinning_vampire : also a good point
al_playground : hey u 2 whre u from are u also philisophy students?
al_playground : philosophy*
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : and it works the smae way in reverse
smokey0384 : yes athiest, and u want someone to change ur mind, well not in ur lifetime punk
smokey0384 : too bad athiest
al_playground : you cannot DENY something that DOESNT exist
fundysrstupid : kamahl I admire your sense of stamina...but lets be realistic...you couldn't get laid in a brothel if you had $10,000 in your pocket....so fucking all of us is merely a pipe dream...a crack pipe dream at that
agn0stic_and_atheist : smokey0384 - I'm not looking to have my mind changed.
griffengrey : so you do?
coltzans_shrine : ARE YOU GUYS HIGHSCHOOL SCIENCE TEACHERS OR DID YOU LOOK THESE WORDS UP IN A BOOK?
al_playground : no i dont
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:29:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
al_playground : did u even get my point?
sk1000s : <leaves the room>
fundysrstupid : kamahl omg we read books???/ say it ain't so
xiphoid_thanatos : fundy: What is kamahl's full screen_name?
shock72001 : fingüzel
Synthetic_Humanity : when did this starte?
coltzans_shrine : I GOT THEM TO SAY MY NAME
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : and yes we do electrons are passed from one atom to another in an organized form
coltzans_shrine : W00T
smokey0384 : athiest, how is u not beleiving in any gods, any differnet to how SOME people beleive and interpreating the 3 lettered communicaion word based on "good" god as beleing everything and 1
coltzans_shrine : FINALLY
griffengrey : yes, its just if you use you brain a bit more you would have understood
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : iwonder: :))
fundysrstupid : xiphios kamahl_is)a)moron???
xiphoid_thanatos : lol fundy
al_playground : haha!! sure
griffengrey : smokey whats your beliefs
coltzans_shrine : MY GOAL WAS TO BE RECOGNIZED ON THE VOICE THINGY FROM NOWHERE, AND IT IS SO, I AM GOD
sepsilvia : <leaves the room>
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:30:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Lisa_the_Insomniac : ignores coltzans_shrine, safe in the assumption that we won't miss anything intelligent.
xshuda : sin: cant hear you
agn0stic_and_atheist : smokey0384 - I don't have any idea what you are asking me there, sorry.
Lisa_the_Insomniac : There, I recognized him.
coltzans_shrine : W00T AND A HALF
coltzans_shrine : YEP
sinning_vampire : lol dont u just love attention getters
coltzans_shrine : EVERYONE IS HAPPY NOW
xiphoid_thanatos : Well I don't see them. I'm not sure that is a bad thing.
coltzans_shrine : SAY KAMAHL
Synthetic_Humanity : Yeah smokey...you started talking gibberish man
smokey0384 : griffen, id bore u to death, so ill just say, i know shit, like to pretend i know certain shit to keep me sane- ish, and just say dunno to rest
coltzans_shrine : PLEASE
considerthisjr : <arrives> Male 19 from USA
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : The biggest difference between a law and a theory is that a theory is much more complex and dynamic. A law governs a single action, whereas a theory explains a whole series of related phenomena.
fundysrstupid : xiphoid you are truly blessed :))
smokey0384 : lol humanity, aww, too bad buddy, u can iggy me if thats a bad thing
Synthetic_Humanity : No it's kinda funny lol
agn0stic_and_atheist : some people believe in god(s), some don't, that's the way it will probably always be.
al_playground : hey anyone from UST?
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:31:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Lisa_the_Insomniac : sneaks up from behind and gooses fundysrstupid before anything is suspected!
coltzans_shrine : (CA-MAUL) KAMAHL NOT CAMEL
Synthetic_Humanity : athiest, how is u not beleiving in any gods, any differnet to how SOME people beleive and interpreating the 3 lettered communicaion word based on "good" god as beleing everything and 1
Synthetic_Humanity : lol
soloyoda2000 : <arrives> Male 32 from grenoble(france)
coltzans_shrine : MAUL, LIKE IN SLAUGHTER
Synthetic_Humanity : falls over
fundysrstupid : <---gives Lisa a tongue lashing...cause she likes it and he enjoys defiling xtian women
smokey0384 : haha humanrity
smokey0384 : answer me
agn0stic_and_atheist : if you want to believe in the Loch New Monster, that's fine too.
fundysrstupid : camel mauler?
agn0stic_and_atheist : *Ness
smokey0384 : athiest, what is the definition of the word "god"
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:32:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
al_playground : who knows something about indian philosophy--advaita vedanta? i need to ask a question
coltzans_shrine : FOR I AM GOD, AND ALIENS FLY OUT THE SHIT I SPOUT FOR NO REASON AT ALL, AND THEN I WILL MAKE PEOPLE KILL IN MY NAME AND i WILL RETURN TO MARS AND SMOKE MY POT
Fastillion : <arrives> Male
xiphoid_thanatos : I think they meant 'interpreting' dio :))
agn0stic_and_atheist : smokey0384 - I imagien there are many definitions of 'god', the primary quality would have to be a being with supernatural power(s).
soloyoda2000 : <leaves the room>
coltzans_shrine : DONT KNOW
smokey0384 : If someone actually said the definition of the word god, then said it in here, then 99% of these arguements wouldn't happen
rdabalos : <arrives> Male 21 from Philippines
coltzans_shrine : THEY GUESS
fundysrstupid : kamahl if you smoked pot you'd be more tolerable...you smoke crack that is evident
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:33:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rdabalos : <leaves the room>
smokey0384 : um no athiest, supernatiral power doesn't nessasaraly have to be god, some spirtualists beleive god to be eveerything as one
phaxad : <arrives> Male 30 from NY alias kjv
smokey0384 : that has fuckall to do with supernatural power
phaxad : :)
coltzans_shrine : GOD IS ME
coltzans_shrine : :d
fundysrstupid : spernatural power = wishful thinking
smokey0384 : all uve done is interpreated the word "god" differently than most, and chose to not beleive in it based on common sense
agn0stic_and_atheist : smokey0384 - then I'd say that 'some spiritualists' are stretching the commonly accepted meaning of the word 'god'.
Synthetic_Humanity : We're losin power to the main thrustahs!
griffengrey : Goodbye, twisted, sadistic, and ultimately satanic morons. May hell be warmer by the thought of your presence
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:34:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : smokey: it is spelled 'supernatural', 'bELIEVE' ,'necessarily'
coltzans_shrine : i WILL EAT YOU
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : there is NO SUCH WORD as interpreating
smokey0384 : yes, well, athiest, some people would beleive in the same as u and say they do beleive in god
coltzans_shrine : HOW DO YOU CHRISTIANS EXPLAIN SLIM SHADY?
smokey0384 : as u both interpreated in differentluy
fundysrstupid : first kamahl wants to fuck all of us...now he wants to eat us...he must love snowballing
phaxad : slim shady? what about it?
al_playground : yes-GOd the eternal truth (christianity) the subsistent truth. Perfection himself.
shlomo_aronovitz : <arrives> Male 42 from Detroit alias Deus de Spinoza
sinning_vampire : what does Slim Shady have to do with any thing?
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:35:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
agn0stic_and_atheist : smokey0384 - there is such a word as 'interpreting', look it up if you don't believe me.
fundysrstupid : vampyre nothing
phaxad : really?
xiphoid_thanatos : To the atheists; How is you not believing in any gods, any diferent to how SOME people believe and interpreting the three lettered communication word, based on 'good'; god, as believing everything and one.[ You know even "translated", it makes no sense whatsoever]
xiphoid_thanatos : I still can't work out what they were asking
coltzans_shrine : I DIDN'T WANT TO FUCK YOU, I WANTED TO SHOOT YOU, THEN EAT, THEN EAT JESUS, CAUSE HES FUCKING PISSING ME OFF, SITTIN THERE LIKE A SUPERSTAR AND WATCHING ME TALK TO YALL NORMAL FOLK
agn0stic_and_atheist : xiph - right, he used the word himself, lol
smokey0384 : god is a simple world, it can be interpreated so many different ways, so in a way u would beleive in god if u interpreated in differently as some
fundysrstupid : xiphoid I agree...god makes no sense at all
phaxad : www.needGod.com
Synthetic_Humanity : supernatiral beleiving communicaion beleing
xiphoid_thanatos : lol
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : smokey: THERE IS NO SUCH WORD AS INTERPREATED
Synthetic_Humanity : Smokey
smokey0384 : lol synope
smokey0384 : haha
coltzans_shrine : DO WE REALLY NEED A LINK FOR NEEDGOD.COM?
fundysrstupid : :))
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:36:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
joytv2002 : <arrives> Male
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : synthetic: IT IS BELIEVING
coltzans_shrine : JUST SAY, HEY GO TO NEEDGOD.COM, PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER
peter_20_with_cam : <arrives>
Synthetic_Humanity : falls out of his chair
Synthetic_Humanity : omg
coltzans_shrine : THATS LIKE FUCKCHRIST.COM
fundysrstupid : kamahl do you need a link to www.crackmakesyoustupid.com?
Synthetic_Humanity : that's funny
joytv2002 : <leaves the room>
agn0stic_and_atheist : suspects that English isn't smokey0384's first language.
smokey0384 : I try and not take myself to serious on "yahoo" chat, or make too much effort on english lit, i have far too many university essays for that bullshit
coltzans_shrine : ITS A DEAD LIN
coltzans_shrine : K
al_playground : diogenes are u a professor?
thane_mawr2001 : <arrives>
smokey0384 : shame on me following the system
sinning_vampire : <leaves the room>
xiphoid_thanatos : iwonder again for YOUR benefit : Fact: In science, an observation that has been repeatedly confirmed.Law: A descriptive generalization about how some aspect of the natural world behaves under stated circumstances. Hypothesis: A testable statement about the natural world that can be used to build more complex inferences and explanations. Theory: In science, a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses.
agn0stic_and_atheist : smokey0384 - 'god' means different things to different people, so what?
Synthetic_Humanity : i know smokey it's just funny
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:37:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
phaxad : agnostic and atheist?????so you know and dont know at the same time???
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Good, xiph. I love the selective bolding. :)
smokey0384 : U don't need that much money through life, u won't get what u want, but if u try hard enough, ull get what u need
smokey0384 : What u WANT and NEED is differently things that can get confused between the 2
fundysrstupid : xiphoid and Faith=the imbecilic steadfastness of cretins
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Do I need YahELite to do that? :)
griffengrey : <leaves the room>
xiphoid_thanatos : Lisa: It wasn't deliberate :))
al_playground : diogenes are u professor?
agn0stic_and_atheist : phaxad - Agnosticism makes a statement about knowledge, addressing those limitations which prevent humans from making a positive determination as to the non-existence of god(s). Atheism makes a statement about belief, namely that the atheist does not hold a belief in god(s). Agnostic-atheism is thus 1) an acceptance that the existence of god(s) cannot be evidentially determined, and 2) a position of not holding any belief in god(s).
phaxad : G doesn't believe in atheist's
smokey0384 : U need hardly any money in life, ppl tend to end up earning more than they actually need
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Oh, just pasted from teh website?
phaxad : God*
smokey0384 : lol j
jim_v2000 : <arrives> Male
smokey0384 : haha lisa, he has as well
xiphoid_thanatos : fundy: They don't have that definition up on the NAS site yet :))
coltzans_shrine : PEOPLE HAVE AN EVOLUTIONARY TRAIT THAT TELLS THEM THAT THEY NEED TO BELIEVE IN SOMETHING, THATS WHY THERE ARE SO MANY.
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : anyone who took chem 1
xiphoid_thanatos : Lisa; yup
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:38:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : should kn this
smokey0384 : good man, athiest
al_playground : no im just asking coz he talks like my professor im just asking u dont have to be mean
xiphoid_thanatos : shlomo:) Hiii
fundysrstupid : kjv neither do the flinstones...so what?
coltzans_shrine : SO IM GONNA GO
xshuda : lol
coltzans_shrine : BUT ONE LAST THING
fundysrstupid : kamahl go
shlomo_aronovitz : hey xiph
Lisa_the_Insomniac : xiph, and I think you should give up on iwonder. Either he's a hopeless fundie who refuses to get it, or he's just doing it to be argumentative.
phaxad : agnostic-was the great pyramid of egypy made,or did that evovle??
phaxad : egypt*
xiphoid_thanatos : Lisa: The sad thing is, he was claiming to be an atheist :|
fundysrstupid : :))
river18phoenix : <arrives> Male 23 from Planet Earth
smokey0384 : agn0stic_and_atheist: smokey0384 - 'god' means different things to different people, so what? <--- well if god was same meaning to u as it is to other people, than u would beleive in it
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : no im beginning to understnd what he was talking about
Synthetic_Humanity : No phaxad it fell from the SKY!!!!!
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:39:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Yeah, well, fundies claim all sorts of things. Including the typical "I'm not a creationist!" claim.
coltzans_shrine : WILL YOU SAY MY NAME AGAIN BEFORE I GO?
agn0stic_and_atheist : phaxad - the pyramids were built by humans.
fundysrstupid : Lisa :))
phaxad : syn-i asked agnostic-not you
Synthetic_Humanity : I like cheese!
phaxad : agnostic-you KNOW that for a fact??
fundysrstupid : no
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Stupid Fundie Quotes: "again im not creationist, but its more credible than evolution" - pleasuregiva
jim_v2000 : hrmm....that makes a lot a sense...people have an evolved trait that requires them to make up a load of crap....seems more likely to me that people have a "built in" need for their creator
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : but you said in general, theories do not become laws but many theories have
xiphoid_thanatos : Oh dear.
wild_child0012001 : <arrives> Male 28 from ask i might tell
smokey0384 : don't misconstrue god to be associated with jesus
xiphoid_thanatos : lmao somer
fundysrstupid : too funny
wild_child0012001 : <leaves the room>
phaxad : why wasnt it evolved over millions of years?
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Stupid Fundie Quotes: "even evolutionist that are scholarly admits that evidence points to creationism" - pleasuregiva
smokey0384 : who says killing 100 people is wrong? not god, but mankind
agn0stic_and_atheist : phaxad - there is sufficient evidence to support that assertion as I see it, yes, it is as much of a 'fact' as anything can be regarding such matters.
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:40:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
xiphoid_thanatos : Lisa :))
fundysrstupid : kjv are you made of carved limestone?
coltzans_shrine : WHATS A PARESION
smokey0384 : Nothing is wrong or right, its a natural cycle
coltzans_shrine : ARE THEY FROM PERU?
phaxad : what evidence is there that the great pyramid was made by someone?
peter_20_with_cam : <leaves the room>
agn0stic_and_atheist : smokey0384 - you do lots of typing but manage to say very little, how is that? lol
river18phoenix : <leaves the room>
Lisa_the_Insomniac : laughs at phaxad.
fundysrstupid : kjv abundant
xshuda : france
smokey0384 : jesus was a cool dude, get the t-shirt. at the time he was over rated i reckon
Lisa_the_Insomniac : They love to quibble about man made things, and infer "design" in natural things.
xiphoid_thanatos : Phaxad: How do you think they got there?
phaxad : mt.rushmore,was that made?or did it happen by chance?
Lisa_the_Insomniac : And make false analogies.
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:41:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
coltzans_shrine : MORONS
knowledge_309 : <arrives> Male 20 from IL
smokey0384 : athiest, if gods meaning is the same to u as someone elses, than u could beleive it
agn0stic_and_atheist : phaxad - the nature of the pyramids, the historical context, the archaological evidence and so on...
Synthetic_Humanity : Well phaxad it could be all those heiroglyphics on the walls of the pyramids..namely the egyptians..call me crazy but i think they put them there.
shadowzone7 : <leaves the room>
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Hah, I knew he'd mention Mt Rushmore. They love that one.
phaxad : how did we get here???by a creator,or by blind chance??
fundysrstupid : kjv is there a point you are trying, and failing, to make?
coltzans_shrine : SAY MY NAME, I WANT A VOICE FROM ABOVE TO RECOGNIZE ME AGAIN
smokey0384 : so u saying u don't beleive in god is nonsense and meaningless but halarious and entertaining
coltzans_shrine : PLEASE :(
xshuda : not a good one
xiphoid_thanatos : Mt Rushmore? Wasn't mount Rushmore a mountain that was carved?
al_playground : well if ur gonna base it from nietzsche's philo smokey he said that its natural because its part of man's nature
jim_v2000 : It's so sad to see that so many people refuse to admit that their lives have meaning and purpose beyond just living. People would rather believe that there is no meaning to life.
Lisa_the_Insomniac : phaxad will just run through the usual checklist of creationist nonsense.
fundysrstupid : Lisa wtf does Mt. Rushmore have to do with anything?
smokey0384 : try and look for possitive and negative for everything
xiphoid_thanatos : doesn't get the connection
coltzans_shrine : FINE THEN, DONT SAY MY FUCKING NAME
coltzans_shrine : I'LL JUST LEAVE WITH THIS
fundysrstupid : xiphoid good...I thought I was the only one
coltzans_shrine : WORSHIP THE ALIENS YOU DAMN MOTHER FUCKERS, OR LIVE THROUGH A HELL ON EARTH THE LIKES OF WHICH YOU WILL NEVER KNOW.
agn0stic_and_atheist : phaxad - evolution is not about blind chance, anything but that, however, as I'm sure you've not read a single book which offers the theory you wouldn't know that.
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:42:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
medusa161 : <arrives> Female 50 from N.S.W. Australia
coltzans_shrine : ISNT IT ILLEGAL?
xiphoid_thanatos : jim: I find it sad that so many insist that this life is nothing compared to a next one that htere is no evidence of.
xiphoid_thanatos : *there
phaxad : so the people they repersent on Mt.rushmore happened by chance,but their faces cant just appear on a rock???
smokey0384 : whatever u beleive won't make fookall difference
Synthetic_Humanity : People win the lottery every day despite the odds....doesn't mean god intervened.
jim_v2000 : evolution is about grasping at straws instead of the truth
agn0stic_and_atheist : smokey0384 - if people don't believe in god(s) that's their prerogative.
coltzans_shrine : <leaves the room>
Lisa_the_Insomniac : xiph, yes. We know it was carved, by humans, because it happened within recorded history... But they like comparing it to "a tree, a dog, a human" and saying "see, those must have been made by an intelligence too!"
xiphoid_thanatos : phaxad: Drugs are bad for you.
phaxad : are you silly in any other area?
jim_v2000 : evolution is a farfetched excuse to ignore God
smokey0384 : yes athiest, but its meaningless and pointless, as that u could beleive the same as soemone who does beleive in god
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:43:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
agn0stic_and_atheist : phaxad - that's question begging.
fundysrstupid : kjv of course they can...why everyone knows people's faces appear on rock surfaces all the time (we must humor cretins)
xiphoid_thanatos : Lisa: You're kidding right? I mean noone is THAT stupid?
smokey0384 : its retarded to say whether u beleive in god or not
Synthetic_Humanity : Phaxad....wow you have some flawed logic my friend
knowledge_309 : Jim, evolution is a fact. Whether or not god exist.
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : evolution has nothing to do with a reason to ignore god
somersetcase1 : smokey, that's what communication clears up.
jim_v2000 : lol
phaxad : evolution is a fairytale for adults-NO proof
smokey0384 : lol somer
agn0stic_and_atheist : smokey0384 - I personally do not believe in divine forces of any kind.
Synthetic_Humanity : For one...A;That's a mountain B: That's an organism....2 very different things phaxas
Lisa_the_Insomniac : jim, evolution is an observed fact, about which we have an excellent explanation (the theory of evolution). It doesn't say anything about God, for or against. ANTI-evolutionism (aka creaitonism) is the "grasping at straws" and is all about denial of the evidence.
fundysrstupid : xiphoid naever underestimate the ability of people to say and believe in stupid things
jim_v2000 : evolution....and fact....in the same sentence
knowledge_309 : Kjv, there is plenty of proof.
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : scientists work on the facts the know to find more
jim_v2000 : er..i should say
smokey0384 : yea communication clears up the gap of our peace of mind, not the truth
jim_v2000 : MAcroevolution
jim_v2000 : and fact
rev_immortal_revolt : <arrives> Male from V
Lisa_the_Insomniac : xiph, oh, you should have heard clodfish when he was in full rant. Mt Rushmore was one of his favorites. :)
knowledge_309 : If you would read another book besides the Bible you would know that.
xiphoid_thanatos : fundy: True, but that one is hilarious. (Mt Rushmore)
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:44:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
phaxad : knowledge-nice try,what pictures drawing???
jim_v2000 : evolution simply bering the concept of change
al_playground : <leaves the room>
al_playground : <arrives> Female
Lisa_the_Insomniac : laughs at jim, who believes the creationist lie about "micro and macro evolution".
knowledge_309 : Pictures drawing?
jim_v2000 : lol
phaxad : knowledge-are you assuming i only read the bible
thane_mawr2001 : phaxad will be ignored for being an idiot.
fundysrstupid : xiphoid I admit I had never encountered that one before...mt. rushmore is man made...ergo god is man made too right?
agn0stic_and_atheist : phaxad - evolution is supported by huge amounts of evidence, and of various kinds, it is also accepted by the overwhelming majority of those scientists who work in the biological sceinces.
jim_v2000 : i dare say that no one has observed one species changing into another
smokey0384 : athiest, why have u named urself athiest and ficated on it
knowledge_309 : kjv, you obviously don't read science books.
smokey0384 : its cool
phaxad : i was brainwashed by public schools too you know
xiphoid_thanatos : lmao fundy
smokey0384 : i am just curious
Lisa_the_Insomniac : jim, you would dare wrongly, then.
jim_v2000 : LOL
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:45:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : phax: :)) you are obviously not reading/researching the right stuff
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Evolution is an observed fact. Including to the level of SPECIATION.
xiphoid_thanatos : smoke: What is 'ficated'?
phaxad : so "science" text books are your "bible"?
knowledge_309 : Jim, you dare to say something that is untrue.
smokey0384 : do u debate to learn athiest, or dya want someone to change ur mind but not aware and its in ur subcoisness
jim_v2000 : LoL
jim_v2000 : lOl
Synthetic_Humanity : Yes phaxad...they lied to us...telling us 1+2=3
Lisa_the_Insomniac : laughs at phaxad.
jim_v2000 : anyway
knowledge_309 : kjv, nope. I don't have a "bible"
smokey0384 : ur ficated on being an athiest, why?
Synthetic_Humanity : damn their brainwashing
al_playground : institutions were created not out of good will but from the emergence a disciplinarian soceity.
xiphoid_thanatos : phaxad: That is about the 7th false analogy you have thrown out in this room. Are you trying for a record?
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : ficated? what's that?
somersetcase1 : who smokey. Who are you speaking to?
phaxad : how did the writers of the science text books KNOW what happened millions of years ago?
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Science is not a religion. Nor does it try to be. Nor is it inherently in conflict with religion, although that's the dogma the creationists try to preach.
Lisa_the_Insomniac : <----- Christian who accepts evolution as the fact that it is, based on the evidence and observations, and doesn't see a conflict between that and her faith.
smokey0384 : ur gonna die, so why don't u appreciate life more and have more experiences and have more of a fun time
xiphoid_thanatos : What is ficated?
agn0stic_and_atheist : smokey0384 - I come to these debate rooms regularly and find people ask me "what are your beliefs?" or more often "WAT R UR BELEOFZ?", so by having my position in my ID it saves having to explain, at least that's the idea.
phaxad : werev the writers there?
knowledge_309 : kjv, read one and you'd know.
xiphoid_thanatos : Ohhh
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:46:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
xiphoid_thanatos : fixated
smokey0384 : haha athiest
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : and there is evidence of evolution , our good friend darwin found it, but its only evidence.... the prosecution in the oj simpson trial had evience but dint prove anything and thats why he got off
smokey0384 : i like that
smokey0384 : lol
xshuda : kids dont really want to go to church they'd rather be at home watching tv
fundysrstupid : <---owns 3 bibles and his face isn't on mt rushmore...hmmm what to make of that?
phaxad : knowledge-been there done that?ever read the bible?
jim_v2000 : "oh no Jim!! i went to college! i took biology!"
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : iwonder: non-sequitor
knowledge_309 : kjv, yes.
phaxad : Lisa-wrong
knowledge_309 : How can you believe the Bible over science?
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : phax: not only read the bible but STUDIED IT
phaxad : bible been here longer than any textbook
smokey0384 : well athiest, u don't seem the type, but do u want to convert ppl, just for satisfaction and took fook em aroundetc,
agn0stic_and_atheist : phaxad - have you researched evolution? have you read any of the literature?
fundysrstupid : mt rushmore is man made ergo kjv is a cretin
knowledge_309 : kjv, so what?
phaxad : evolution is NOT science
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:47:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Lisa_the_Insomniac : jim, WE know what we're talking about. It's obvious you don't.
phaxad : is beer football??
knowledge_309 : The epic of giglimesh has been here longer.
lilblue1161 : <arrives> Female
Lisa_the_Insomniac : And don't ever intend to.
phaxad : just because the 2 are mixed together
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : phax: :)) nice non-sequitor
knowledge_309 : Evolution is the cornerstone of biology.
fundysrstupid : beer if football if you think faces magically appear on mt rushmore
Synthetic_Humanity : Phaxad do you know ANYTHING about science?
fundysrstupid : if = is
phaxad : evolution is a religion is most public schools
al_playground : the story of creation on the bible must not be read as it is...creation in 7 days..if u read betwwen the lines it shows the process of evolution but that evolution did not happened bi itself it needed a creator who's immutable and eternal himself.
smokey0384 : kjv is pulling ur leg, tryin to get a rise outta ya
knowledge_309 : lol kjv.
phaxad : ..and colleges
fundysrstupid : kjv can I ask you a serious question?
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:48:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
knowledge_309 : I've g2g.
knowledge_309 : bye
xiphoid_thanatos : phaxad is a troll.
phaxad : noone has seen an animal change into another
lilblue1161 : <leaves the room>
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : i said they had evidence of evolution evif\dence doesnt prove anything i was merely making a comparison
smokey0384 : fundy, is he inferior to u eh ;)
agn0stic_and_atheist : phaxad - if you REALLY want to know: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-misconceptions.html#proof
Synthetic_Humanity : phaxad is talking out of his ass lol
fundysrstupid : kjv yes they have...all the time
Synthetic_Humanity : actually we have phaxad
jim_v2000 : it doesn't matter really what you think you know....in the last few minutes of your life you'll be wondering if you were right all those years about evolution
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : phax: yes, there have been observations, idiot
Synthetic_Humanity : micro organisms do it all the time
smokey0384 : fundy, geez i guess u want the need to feel better and supior to ppl
Lisa_the_Insomniac : iwonder, you're a moron also. Science has learned a lot more about evolution since Darwin's day. While most of his work is still accepted as true, Darwin's work is only a tiny portion of modern evolutionary biology. He only had "natural selection" figured out, for instance. Not all the other mechanisms of evolution. And he knew nothing about genetics.
phaxad : agnostic-nice try-been ther done that
Synthetic_Humanity : micro organisms do it all the time phaxad
fundysrstupid : smokey everyone else is...so he shouldn't feel special :))
smokey0384 : lol
knowledge_309 : <leaves the room>
smokey0384 : fundy, i wanna feel special and meaningfull
jim_v2000 : and in my last few minutes...i'll know where i will be...and i won't be wondering if i was right about God
agn0stic_and_atheist : phaxad - then you didn't understand it or want to understand it.
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:49:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
smokey0384 : tell me tell me
Synthetic_Humanity : ever heard of a virus?
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere : i aint using darwins findings as the only thing i know
Synthetic_Humanity : they mutate yah know
al_playground : <leaves the room>
smokey0384 : i want attentiion and to feel wanted
al_playground : <arrives> Female
fundysrstupid : smokey really?
jim_v2000 : <leaves the room>
smokey0384 : tell me i am fundy
phaxad : the evolutionist and creationist have the same evidence-the interpretation is different
Lisa_the_Insomniac : laughs at phaxad's silly claim that evolution is "religion". These sheepish creationists just repeat the same dreadful nonsense over and over, no matter how blatantly silly it is and how many times you refute it.
Cerebral_Torture : <leaves the room>
Cerebral_Torture : <arrives> Male
agn0stic_and_atheist : morining bluejene
xshuda : mornin'
xiphoid_thanatos : hi blue:)
smokey0384 : well, ur here for attention and ur lonely and most likely have problems, at least i ain't in denial of it
phaxad : creationist-"in the begining God..." evolution "in the beginning rock"
smokey0384 : don't underestimate denial in virtually everything
fundysrstupid : smokey if you need others to tell you that you are special then you are not special...unless you take the maening of special as referring to thos people that rode the short bus to school
Lisa_the_Insomniac : jim, how does my accepting evolution as the fact that it is have anything to do with "my last few moments of life"? Ah, I get it. You are trying to preach the creationist nonsense that evolution = atheism... LOL Moron.
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:50:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
smokey0384 : we are all brainwahed to a certain extent anyways
bigfishermen2003 : <arrives>
xiphoid_thanatos : is not here for attention, is not lonely and everyone has problems but they are irrelevant to my presence on the net.
smokey0384 : yes fundy, human nature makes me like that to a certain exent
Synthetic_Humanity : It's infinitely more complicated then that phaxad
Lisa_the_Insomniac : iwonder, I don't think you know a whole lot, actually. You don't even know what theories and laws are in science.
medusa161 : <leaves the room>
fundysrstupid : why do they call it brainwashing when your brain is dirtier after the brainwashing than before?
smokey0384 : but fortunatly, my opinion on myself is based on mine, not other ppl's.
smokey0384 : phew
a_whisper_from_bey0nd : <arrives> Male 23 from New Mexico alias Whisper
shyjacket : <arrives> Male from usa
smokey0384 : harsest person to u, has to be urself
xiphoid_thanatos : grinds her teeth at 'fact by vote'.
agn0stic_and_atheist : I need to lose a couple of pounds, but I don't imagine anyone in here can do that for me, lol
smokey0384 : hey, so why don't u all have a job!?
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:51:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Lisa_the_Insomniac : phaxad, yes. The creationists and scientists DO use the same evidence. It's just that the scientists look at it honestly. And don't read into it what they WANT to be true (ignoring all the evidence that can't be twisted to support that religious bias).
fundysrstupid : smokey well there you go...you are merely human...how special can that be...there's over 6 billion of your type on earth
xiphoid_thanatos : smokey: It is 11pm at night here.
al_playground : im still a student
smokey0384 : athiest, why don't u have a job buddy, i know ur at university, u should check out drugs culture there and get laid and socialise with ppl a lot more often
Lisa_the_Insomniac : xiph, oh, is smokey pulling that "are you lonely" crap on you too?
Cerebral_Torture : xiphoid, where do you live? I think you might have told me, I don't remember.
xiphoid_thanatos : And it is saturday. I work during the week and the during the day.
fundysrstupid : <---hands xiphoid a mouthpiece so she won't hurt her teeth
Lisa_the_Insomniac : I don't want to be brainwashed. I'd rather have a dirty mind. :P
smokey0384 : r u anti-social by character, or is it just ppl get sick of u infactuation on god and ur beleifs
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:52:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
xiphoid_thanatos : Cerebral: Australia. Queensland (Ipswich)
fundysrstupid : Lisa mission accomplished :))
smokey0384 : haha lisa, u got in the spirit
xiphoid_thanatos : aww thanks fundy:)
bigfishermen2003 : <leaves the room>
Synthetic_Humanity : whispers to smokey
Synthetic_Humanity : Check the profile man
Cerebral_Torture : Oh..well aren't you the lucky one..
fundysrstupid : xiphoid you welcome hon
shyjacket : <leaves the room>
Lisa_the_Insomniac : "...the main reason for insisting on the universal Flood as a fact of history and as the primary vehicle for geological interpretation is that God's Word plainly teaches it! No geologic difficulties, REAL OR IMAGINED, can be allowed to take precedence over the clear statements and necessary inferences of Scripture." -- Henry Morris, Biblical Cosmology and Modern Science
smokey0384 : grins
rev_immortal_revolt : somerset, I agree about science not being taught well in our schools. A good example is how many people are actually taught that hypotheses flow through a hierarchy of theory and then law. It is amazing how many people are actually taught that. I even have run into actual teachers that believe that theories turn into laws.
smokey0384 : o dear
al_playground : schools and other institutions were not created out of good will but out of a growing disciplinarian soceity. like soldiers that needs to be trained...
Lisa_the_Insomniac : Interesting quote to show how dishonest the creationists are about evidence, and interpretation thereof.
smokey0384 : o fuck
smokey0384 : haha
smokey0384 : here we go again..
Synthetic_Humanity : o fuck indeed!
Lisa_the_Insomniac : hey, bluejene. :)
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:53:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
agn0stic_and_atheist : we atheists are part of a giant communist-criminal conspiracy, we don't have to work because the drug and prostitution money provides us with state of the art computers and money to bribe politicians with to get evolution taught in schools, there I said it.
fundysrstupid : well folks as fascinating as this is...I have to go study...till we meet again...adios
wreaking_havoc_as_usual : <arrives> Female 38 alias Havoc
xiphoid_thanatos : Time for me to go.
fundysrstupid : bye xi
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : agnostic: :))
xiphoid_thanatos : Night fundy hon;)
xshuda : bye
shock72001 : <leaves the room>
agn0stic_and_atheist : :-)
fundysrstupid : smooches on your pink parts
xiphoid_thanatos : Night all, have fun
wreaking_havoc_as_usual : <leaves the room>
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : agnostic: what's the secret phone number again? my check is late
smokey0384 : yes, i know he is only human synthetic, why u ask me?
Cerebral_Torture : You know I never hear anyone bitching about living in Australia or Germany..but you always hear people bitching about living in the U.S..
wreaking_havoc_as_usual : <arrives> Female 38 alias Havoc
agn0stic_and_atheist : lol
xiphoid_thanatos : ooooo ;;)
smokey0384 : :-s
agn0stic_and_atheist : mine too
phaxad : goodnight Xiphoid
fundysrstupid : :))
somersetcase1 : Who hides all the proof of God? Who perpetrates the fossil fraud? We do, we do! Who hates God and Jesus too? Who pretends evolution is true? We do, we do! Who expands the age of Earth? Who denies the Virgin Birth? We do, we do! Who denies the fact of creation? Who will destroy the Christian nation? We do, we will! What does Satan like to see? An EVIL ATHEIST CONSPIRACY!!!
smokey0384 : :| @ human synthetic
fundysrstupid : <leaves the room>
Synthetic_Humanity : do i meant HIS profile!
Synthetic_Humanity : do?i NO
Lisa_the_Insomniac : rev_immortal_revolt, a lot of teachers don't want to touch the evolution topic, even if they are educated adequately about it themselves. They are intimidated and don't want fundie parents coming in and yelling at the principle. It's sad that the kids are shortchanged an education because of that.
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:54:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
somersetcase1 : -
somersetcase1 : ):-))
Synthetic_Humanity : Stop interpreating me!
smokey0384 : I know jesus is just human
phaxad : when fossils are found-the ONLY thing we know for a fact is that something died
al_playground : when th God is Dead movement happened it is not a suggestion of atheism but rather it is a message on how man with his science had killed God we no longer believe in him. we need a renewal of faith
smokey0384 : Its possible jesus was son of god, same as its possible it could rain toasters later on
Synthetic_Humanity : Yeah like the dinosaurs
claytablets20022002 : <arrives> Male
somersetcase1 : Damn atheists are ruining the world!! starting wars, worshiping satan, conspiring against everyone, murdering ducks, beating kangaroos, mocking the bible because of its contradictions with itself and reality, being evil. we should just throw out anyone who doesn’t have a close personal relationship with god
smokey0384 : what is ur point?
smokey0384 : :|
phaxad : no fossils has a date on it
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : al: no. god IS dead
Lisa_the_Insomniac : The fundies are making concerted political efforts to trash the public education system and make it a tool for indoctrination of creationism.
smokey0384 : we dunno much, so many things is possible
agn0stic_and_atheist : phaxad - if you'd looked at the talkorigins site properly you would see that evolution is observed NOW.
Synthetic_Humanity : shoots smokey
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:55:44 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
phaxad : somer-they say the same thing about Christians
soltan_26t : <arrives>
soltan_26t : <leaves the room>
smokey0384 : what can be classed as supernatural, is becoz of stuff we not aware of and don't know
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : phax: :)) are you Ken_in_NY?? only Ken would say such total bullshit
smokey0384 : lol humaity
charlotte_the_enchantress : <arrives> Female 999 from The Desert
Lisa_the_Insomniac : phaxad, WE know a heck of a lot more than "something died". YOU may only know that. That's all you WANT to know.
xshuda : i was taught evolution at a catholic school and there was no uproar from the parents
smokey0384 : make a point humanity plz
phaxad : agnostic-how??who lives for a million years to see one thing chnage into another???
smokey0384 : as i want to hassle checkin ur profile as u asked
phaxad : your proof is a website ? LOL
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : ken: :))
al_playground : we need a renewal of faith
Lisa_the_Insomniac : xshuda, same here. But then the Catholic Church has officially accepted evolution for a while now.
phaxad : :))
Synthetic_Humanity : Not my Profile!!!!!!!!!
smokey0384 : :D
smokey0384 : :O
Synthetic_Humanity : points to phaxad
smokey0384 : :"> whose
enigmadevice : <arrives> Male 39 from Kentucky, USA
smokey0384 : lol
phaxad : www.answersingenesis.com
Lisa_the_Insomniac : The Pope's statement about Evolution ("Truth Cannot Contradict Truth): http://www.newadvent.org/docs/jp02tc.htm
smokey0384 : my bad
thesoul_less_one : <arrives> Male from USA alias SOUL
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : al: we don't need to believe in a non-existant anything anymore
smokey0384 : lets go to war humanuty
xshuda : weird huh
Lisa_the_Insomniac : laughs at phaxad.
LOG DATA Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:56:44 hunter_the_crazychick, AT