Posted by Gremlin on 11 February 1999 at 07:38:43:

In Reply to: Re: I knew the Gremlin I am friends with was there...Somewhat.. posted by The Imp on 11 February 1999 at 07:19:28:

: I was hoping you that you would see a different perspective on this whole thing, glad you did a little. Wyvern might have made an attack out of his post, but at the same time Utahraptor's post doesn't have a "I'm not writing this to offend anyone'' tone to it. Quite the oppisite. I think that is what sent wyvern off, claiming one thing and writing something else. Well that and the whole logical arguement thing. I really didn't see much point to Utahraptor's post, other than to get some attention (positive or negative). He accomplished his goal. Now it could be that I am mistaken as to what the goal of the original post was, but if that's the case, is it my fault for reading into it wrong or is it the fault of the writer for not expressing his motive clearly? I mean, come on, if that post wasn't meant to be inflamatory there is a real problem with the style Utahraptor used.

I got the impression that his post was combative, too. I figured it was because the majority of the posters [as opposed to lurkers] here are either atheists or passively religious people. Ironically, I'd always got the impression that Utahraptor believes in the Hebrew god, since he always capitalises the word 'god' as if it weren't a variable for 'YHWH'.

: Anyway, to answer the question directly, the evidence would suggest that it was merely a dream, since the event 'foretold' in the dream never happened on schedule, in 1994.

: Evidence would suggest, but what do you believe? That was my question, Gremlin. I asked it in an attempt to show that sometimes proof against an idea/belief doesn't make you not believe it. (the little fix on you typing was done as an ''I told you so'', I'll admit. I also admit it's petty, but hey I make 10 times those mistakes everytime I type a paper, post, or message)

That's entirely different. You asked what I could prove.

The potential for oneironautics exists, I think. Homosapiens, on average, use eight percent of their brains, leaving ninety-two percent for...stuff. What that stuff is, and how it might be used, is anyone's guess. Personally, I'd think that oneironautics are possible. They would account for deja vu, and other unexplainable phenomena. But there's no proof of it.

Moreover, since I can see where this is going, there's a difference in believing that oneironautics are possible, and believing that anyone's ever accomplished it. Some random twit telling me that he's some sort of dreamsurfer isn't going to convince me that he is, or even that he believes that he is. By the same token, someone claiming to be a vampyre isn't going to convince me of much. Realistically, I'd expect an accomplished oneironaut to keep his abilities a secret--even lie about them--for a number of reasons. So anyone claiming to be an oneironaut would probably impress me as a pychopath--a paranoid schizophrenic, a pathological liar, or just some weird guy trying to see if I'll laugh at him.

About the typo: I noticed that as it posted. It happens. I'm just tired of all the posts to Utahraptor telling him to learn to type or spell or whatever; it's an old gag. So he can't type, or can but doesn't bother, or something. Who cares. Over ninety percent of Americans are now functionally illiterate; a guy who can read but isn't retentive about his typing skills doesn't concern me much.

--Gremlin

Follow Ups:

• Re: Here's what I asked you from the start. Oh Gremlin...... 12 February 1999 at 02:24:04 (3)
  • I already answered that. Gremlin 12 February 1999 at 03:32:10 (2)
    • Re: I already answered that. Utahraptor 12 February 1999 at 08:30:49 (1)
      • Difficult question Gremlin 12 February 1999 at 16:16:53 (0)
• Re: Authoral intent Utahraptor 11 February 1999 at 09:13:51 (0)