Here's this, in regards to crazycomputers@yahoo.com, who's apparently some 15 year old homeschooled kid named Chris from Indiana or something; it's mentioned in the show, and like, on his profile, which is here
crazycomputers: hello
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Hello.
crazycomputers: ok, let's so it from here.
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: I don't normally allow private messages, but just this once....
crazycomputers: :)
crazycomputers: one moment... gotta type
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Okay.
crazycomputers: how 'bout the age of the earth?
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: What about it?
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Bear in mind that we've only got an hour slot here....
crazycomputers: how old does evolution say it is?
crazycomputers: ok
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Evolution does not say anything; you cannot anthropomorphise evolution like that; please try again.
crazycomputers: evolution calims about 65 billion years
crazycomputers: however, if the sun was 65 billion years old it would be so big that is would consume the galaxy
crazycomputers: (at the start, of course)
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Evolution has nothing to do with the age of the earth; it deals with the changing of animals. It has nothing to do with geologic age, ,or 'caliming', ,whatever that is.
crazycomputers: how 'bout this puzzle:
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: And as far as the sun goes: No it wouldn't; who in hell told you that, and did you pay any money before believing it.
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Okay. Hit me.
crazycomputers: evolution claims that the first cell evolved from inanimate matter
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Does it....
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Show me.
crazycomputers: this is statistically impossible
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Yeah, it is. Y'know why? Inanimation suggests it doesn't move. If it doesn't move, it doesn't change. Having anything in the universe that doesn't move isn't possible.
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Let me ask you this: when was the last time you changed your clothes.
crazycomputers: inanimate = without life
crazycomputers: am i on the air?
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Yes. You are.
crazycomputers: then stop pestering me about my clothes
crazycomputers: For chimpanzees to type "in the beginning, god created the heavens and the earth", and would take about 3 TRILLION YEARS before 1000 mokeys typing at once would produce this phrase
crazycomputers: this phrase is quite less complex than a cell
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: That was an honest question with a followup. Do you not understand debate? You seem to be completely overlooking the rules of debate here. You're not giving any evidence; you're only posting things that seem to have no basis in reality; you're asserting this shit that doesn't even apply to evolution.
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Gremlin says, Listen, stoopid: Are you suggesting that nothing ever changes?
crazycomputers: maybe we should do this by email so i can organize my thoughts before i speak them
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Please answer the question. Are you suggesting that nothing ever changes. Simple enough.
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: You can send everything by Email later. Just answer this one simple question.
crazycomputers: things change, but only within the limits of the gene pool of the spieces
crazycomputers: i.e. we have tall people, short people
crazycomputers: not people with two brains, or three feet
crazycomputers: because this is outside the capability of the human gene pool
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Evolution is change. That's exactly what it means. If things change, then things evolve. If things do not evolve, things do not change.
crazycomputers: we're talking about the Theory of Evolution
crazycomputers: macroevolution
crazycomputers: microevolution is the changing of a being through the genes established already
crazycomputers: macroevolution is the supposed creation of new genes
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Gremlin says, You're an idiot. Lemme clarify that. You're an idiot. At the age of fifteen, being this much of a fuckin' idiot, you are likely to be an idiot for the rest of your miserable, stoopid little life, and for that, you have effectively proved that you, stoopid, do not evolve. You remain an idiot throughout your life. Congradulations. You among every organism on the planet are free from the inconvenience of change. Get off my show.
crazycomputers: things change, but only within the limits of the gene pool
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: And by the way, this will air.
crazycomputers: so he DOSEN'T try to disprove the beliefs of his "callers"?
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: No. Why would I want to disprove a belief? What's the point? Why should we bother, when you don't understand the theory you're trying to argue?
crazycomputers: what exactly am i goofing up on?
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: You're lumping everything together, and calling it 'the theory of evolution', when nothing is related, and pulling stuff out of your ass that isn't even related, or stated by the 'theory of evolution'....
crazycomputers: the theory of evolution claims that a cell rose from non living material, correct?
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: No. Incorrect.
crazycomputers: then apparently you are denying the core belief of the theory. The entire theory is built upon the fact that the simple things became more complex over time. If you think that i am an idiot, go and get yourself some books on the theory.
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Theory and belief are antonyms. Theories are based upon fact. Beliefs are based upon fears. Fears, being irrational, are NOT based upon fact.
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: By the way, stop strawmanning. Invalid argument.
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: If you really want to know why YOU are wrong, fine, go spend the rest of your life at http://talkorigins.org
crazycomputers: where? i studied logic this past year. i know when an argument is invalid
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Find out why you're wrong. Find out why the number 65 billion has nothing to do with anything.
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Oh really. Give us an example of an invalid argument.
crazycomputers: well, you could start with the theory of evolution
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Please provide the source of your '65 billion' comment, by the way.
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: And please demonstrate how the 'theory of evolution' classifies as an invalid argument.
crazycomputers: if you don't know that the theory states that the earth is ~65 million years old, then you need to talk with an evolutionist once in a while
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: 1. The earth is not 65 million years old; nobody has ever said that. You're thinking of the Yucatan asteroid impact at the end of the Maastrichtian epoch.
crazycomputers: did i say it was? i said that the theory claims it is
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: No. The theory does not claim it. You're officially off air until you rectify your ignorance. You said you were going to school and studying this stuff; you've proven nothing but the fact that you don't know shit about the theory of evolution, ,or geology, ,or palaeontology, or fuckin' logicl
crazycomputers: holey moley. this guy dosen't know zip about the theory, does he?
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: I don't know what school you're going to, but I really think their educational license and funding ought to be revoked. Know that you've just made an utter fool out of yourself in front of a palaeontologist, and a shitload of listeners.
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: If you want to contest that he knows anything about 'this theory', you can still Email him, or post it on the messageboard; I'll be posting this transcript there. You have the address.
crazycomputers: i am homeschooled. thanks for insulting my mother
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Then your mother is really fucking up your life. Get a real education.
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Go look things up for yourself, because you don't know shit about anything you've claimed to know about.
crazycomputers: i have
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: Again, feel free to continue refuting everything, but you'll have to do it at gremlin.net, because you are no longer 'on air', ,and you will not be until you rectify your ignorance.
crazycomputers: this guy needs to rectify his own ignorance
crazycomputers: how old does the theory claim that the universe is?
crazycomputers:
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: This is an Autoresponder: Please do not bother me; I'm On Air right now; if you have any questions or comments, feel free to post them to http://gremlin.net/bb
crazycomputers: uh-huh. well, let me know when this guy clears the alchohol out of his system
Hunter_the_CrazyChick: This is an Autoresponder: Please do not bother me; I'm On Air right now; if you have any questions or comments, feel free to post them to http://gremlin.net/bb