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Re: anocondas (part IV) |
snake11215
(44/M/brooklyn,new york city,u.)
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10/23/01 11:12 pm |
you're not trying to correct misinformation-all
you're trying to do is prove me wrong.why?-it's
something i've seen with"by the book"types numerous
times.you're totally inflexible & can't go beyond that.if what
you're saying is true-& i'm only talking here about the
species i've dealt with,i'm no expert on the
others-someone's snake at some point would have exhibited some of
that behavior.i'm not saying it never happens-i'm
saying that it's very unlikely.your world of
herpetologists is a very small fraction of snake keepers.(do
you"study"the family dog?).again i'll say that having
burmese,boas & retics living together is a very common,almost
majority practice-i've seen it a lot,& i've never heard of
one of these attacking another.one last thing-since
this started,i've looked back on some of my books,&
even consulted one of"yours",& some things contradict
your facts-are these experts wrong as well?i'm not
even going to argue with you anymore.you live in your
sterile world of"facts",& i'll continue to live in the
real world.
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Re: anocondas (part IV) |
snake11215
(44/M/brooklyn,new york city,u.)
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10/23/01 11:51 pm |
by the way-we're all part of an ancient cult.we smoke hash all day & worship the snakes as symbols of shiva.
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Re: anocondas (part IV) |
BMF_17_M
(20/M/six feet under)
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10/24/01 7:14 am |
Ok, I don't know what the Cult and hash have to
do with anything.
I would simply like to
point out that you have consistantly fallen back to the
"book" and age points when you can't defend what you've
said with credible information, completely ignoring
our real life hands on experience. If anyone is being
inflexible it's you. And by the way, you did say it never
happens, in your first post you said that anacondas were
the ONLY large constrictor that exhibited this type
of behavior. Go back and read it, it's right there
in black and white.
Keeping different species
in the same enclosure isn't anywhere close to being
a majority practice, in fact quite the
contrary.
As for "our world of herpetologists" being a very
small fraction of snake keepers, I seriously doubt that
you have personal relationships with many more snake
keepers than Naja or I. Also, the snake keepers I
associate with aren't just average pet keepers alone, they
also include breeders, vets, reptile resuce directors
and professors.
The only reason I am being so
adamant about this topic is that misinformation is a very
dangerous thing, especially in relation to reptile
husbandry. Through my experience with my reptile rescue,
school and my discussions with Doctors Fitzgerald and
Klingenberg I have a much better understanding of what kind
of damage this kind of thing can do. I am constantly
doing my part to try and help people get the right
information about these wonderful animals. I could care less
about your feelings or pride. My concern is for the
animals themselves. I have tried to politely correct you
on this subject because it is my hope that you will
pass on the correct information and possibly prevent a
snake being injured or killed.
It is because of
my concern for these creatures that your bullheaded,
ignorant stubborness saddens me.
BMF
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Re: anocondas (part IV) |
snake11215
(44/M/brooklyn,new york city,u.)
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10/24/01 12:01 pm |
you can't even recognize humor.i think you have borderline personality disorder.you won't accept the truth.correct yourself.your're not even worth my time anymore.
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Re: anocondas (part V) |
najaboy69
(27/M/MI)
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10/24/01 5:41 pm |
I find it fascinating that when one doesn't have
a proverbial "foot to stand on", he resorts to
various forms of pseudoreasoning. Thus far, you have yet
to make a valid, rational post. Seeing as how you're
a glutton for punishment, let's continue with the
dissection, shall we?
"you're not trying to correct
misinformation-all you're trying to do is prove me
wrong.why?
Because you make it so easy by posting about that which
you do not know. Because you choose to selectively
ignore facts that contradicts your misinformed view.
Because you chose to be rude and condescending when
someone tactfully pointed out your error. In short,
because you had it coming, and you made it entirely too
easy.
"you're totally inflexible & can't go beyond that.if what
you're saying is true"
Let's talk about inflexibility
here for a moment. Once again, this is an area where
you have NO ROOM WHATSOEVER to criticize others. If
you recall, this entire fracas was caused by your
attacking a person that corrected your assertion that
anacondas are the only large constrictor that consumed
cold-blooded prey. Seems a bit hypocritical of you, doesn't
it?
"i'm only talking here about the species i've dealt
with"
I would refer to you to your earlier posts in which
you contradict the statement that you just made. Or
are we to believe that you have dealt with all large
constrictors, because you made assertions about them
all.
"i'm no expert on the others"
Everyone can tell
that.
"someone's snake at some point would have exhibited some of
that behavior.i'm not saying it never happens"
Once
again, I would refer you to your earlier posts, in which
you directly contradict yourself.
"i'm saying
that it's very unlikely"
More likely than you
think, but then again, I don't imagine you have much to
base your false assumptions on. You already admit that
your experience is limited, and you have spoken of
that which you have no first-, or even second-hand
knowledge.
"your world of herpetologists is a very small fraction
of snake keepers"
LOL...go right on thinking
that. You're batting a thousand on your misinformation
so far- no need to stop now!
"again i'll say
that having burmese,boas & retics living together is a
very common,almost majority practice"
On the
contrary, the "majority" is responsible. Just because those
few that you know are ignorant as well, it doesn't
mean its a majority consensus.
"i've looked
back on some of my books..."
Pop-up books don't
count.
"...& even consulted one of"yours",& some things
contradict your facts"
Title, author, and what was the
alleged "contradiction"?
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Re: anocondas (part IV) |
najaboy69
(27/M/MI)
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10/24/01 5:46 pm |
I would've guessed it was the paint chips.
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Re: anocondas (part IV) |
BMF_17_M
(20/M/six feet under)
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10/24/01 10:51 pm |
You know, I find it funny that you complain about
being treated with respect when you have yet to treat
anyone else respectfully.
I will repeat myself
yet again in the hope that something gets through.
Your "truth" is nothing more than an ignorant
assumption based on limited experience than doesn't even
include the species in question. I accept facts that have
reliable and credible proof behind them. You have yet to
provide such.
BMF
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Re: anocondas (part IV) |
rg_boa
(26/M/Louisiana)
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10/25/01 1:37 am |
You tell him BMF and Naja. Age doesn't cancel out
hands-on experience! And just because he has dealt with
snakes for 16 years doesn't mean he did it all
correctly. But what do I know? I'm only 26!!! LOL
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Re: anocondas (part IV) |
snake11215
(44/M/brooklyn,new york city,u.)
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10/25/01 1:49 am |
you have to be,without a doubt,one of the
greatest assholes that i have ever encountered.this is
turning into a childish back & forth,& i refuse to be a
part of it any longer.i am far from ignorant,& i know
what happens.we're all doing fine with no
problems.guess we're doing something right,which means we don't
need you,do we.you're just an arrogant snot who loves
to wave his so called knowledge in people's
faces("look at me,i have an education!").like i said,our
snakes are fine.p.s.-my friend ed-another snake
keeper(burmese,ball & red tail boa)-says to--no,i won't print that
here..
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Re: anocondas (part IV) |
BMF_17_M
(20/M/six feet under)
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10/25/01 1:59 pm |
I pity the you and your friends who are obviously
mistreating your reptiles. I hope one day you wake up to the
proper way of doing things and begin treating your
animals with the respect they deserve.
BMF
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