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Re: anocondas (part IV) Sorry, I'm not available black_is_everything
(F/My Own Horrid Nightmare)
10/27/01 7:16 pm
I too view them the same as you...they are pets and famliy to me....just like my rats and just like my past pets were.

I dont not look at them in a cold scientific study way, and i don't believe naja does either.

Im glad your snakes and those you know are healthy, i really am...i just hope it stays that way, for their sake.

Steph
 
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Re: anocondas Sorry, I'm not available BMF_17_M
(20/M/six feet under)
10/27/01 7:52 pm
I'll reiterate what I've said before one last time. Any snake may decide to prey upon another snake. Not just large constrictors. This is very unlikely in most cases but it's always a possibility. It is however more likely between snakes of different species. Anacondas in general are more likely to prey on snakes than most other large constrictors. Housing more than one together isn't adivisible not because of possible cannibalism, but the more likely territorial disputes (especially between males). Cross housing different species is even less recomended because at best it's an unpredictable situation. Some snakes do fine together, but all snakes are different and it's difficult to predict how two individuals will react to one another. Another thing is considering the environmental quality. For example, housing a reticulated python and a ball python together would require one to have a poor environment as they have different heat and humidity requirements. I wouldn't recomend getting an anoconda because they get huge, are unpredictable at best, and require and elaborate, expensive environment.

BMF
 
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Message 194 of 218
Re: anocondas (part IV) Sorry, I'm not available BMF_17_M
(20/M/six feet under)
10/27/01 8:08 pm
What you don't realize about what we've been trying to tell you is that this is an area where pet keeping and the scientific comunity merge. Keeping reptiles properly requires one to keep up with the scientific reasearch as well as learning from personal experience. However, the experience you gain with your own snakes only applies to you and your snakes. You and they do not set the standard for all snake keepers. If I only had experience with my own snakes I wouldn't bother giving anyone advice because my snakes are not the control group for all snakes. One thing you keep saying is "I've never had a problem", well never having a problem also limits your experience. You learn from mistakes and things that happen that aren't your fault. Never having a problem simply means A.) A problem hasn't risen YET and B.) That you've been lucky so far. If you talk to any experienced, long term snake keeper they will have several stories of situations that they have learned from. Even I could tell a few of my own.

Just because we present the facts in a cold, scientific way doesn't mean we treat our animals the same. I for one consider all my pets, reptiles an mammals alike, to be like family. Just take a look at some of the pictures I've posted and that should be obvious.

One last thing: You may complain of najaboy69's way of treating you, but you set yourself up for it. If you had the common courtesy to refrain from making attacking comments on age and book learning, not to mention your overall attitude, he would have had no reason to treat you the way he has.

Respect is a two-way street and through this whole debate you have been walking one way and never looking back.

BMF
 
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Message 195 of 218
Re: anocondas (part IV) Sorry, I'm not available snake11215
(44/M/brooklyn,new york city,u.)
10/27/01 9:15 pm
"control group"?"never having a problem limits your experience"?listen to you-you're so cold,it's scary.thank GOD i'm not like you!
 
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Re: anocondas (part IV) Sorry, I'm not available BMF_17_M
(20/M/six feet under)
10/27/01 9:31 pm
Weren't you just pissing and moaning about personal attacks?

BMF
 
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Message 197 of 218
Re: anocondas (part IV) Sorry, I'm not available BMF_17_M
(20/M/six feet under)
10/27/01 9:36 pm
in fact,you're right-i want to appologize for lowering myself to his level.that was not cool.

You're memory must not be very good. If it was you may remember that you began the attacks before najaboy69 even entered this discusion. If anything he has lowered himself to your level. And has done it with more skill I might add.

BMF
 
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Message 198 of 218
Re: anocondas (part IV) Sorry, I'm not available snake11215
(44/M/brooklyn,new york city,u.)
10/27/01 10:28 pm
everyone notice how he's totally unable to stop.if this is not a sign of serious instability,i don't know what is.what an immature,spoiled child!
 
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Message 199 of 218
Re: anocondas (part IV) Sorry, I'm not available BMF_17_M
(20/M/six feet under)
10/27/01 10:44 pm
LOL, this coming from a grown man with the maturity of said child. You must thrive on hypocrosy. I never made any statements saying that I was stopping. You on the other hand have said exactly that several times and have yet to follow through on it. I'm done debating, as it is obvoius you are too dense to comprehend nearly everything that has been said here. However, I find it very amusing to watch you stumble over yourself so I will continue to play with your ignorance until I'm bored with it:)

BMF
 
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Re: anocondas (part IV) Sorry, I'm not available doug_kyle
(M/Denver)
10/28/01 1:19 am
People are people. Facts are facts. Knowledge is knowledge. Remain teachable (open to learning and willing and desiring to learn). Remaining teachable is beneficial to whatever kind of pet(s) anyone has and to yourself(elves). Take care of the animals. Take care of yourself(elves). Read. Observe. Talk. Exchange ideas, experiences, information. Live life and try to ignore the not so great stuff that is part of life.
 
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Message 201 of 218
Re: anocondas (part IV) Sorry, I'm not available snake11215
(44/M/brooklyn,new york city,u.)
10/28/01 1:22 am
you are a very sick,sadistic psychopath,& i am formally making a request to yahoo to permanantly remove & ban you.oh-don't ever come to new york-that would be a mistake.
 
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